How could Todd Gurley not get MVP this year?
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All these mvp awards have become about the narrative instead of who actually deserves the award. shyt is worse than the grammys
The_Unchosen_One
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Rigby.
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Who’s to even say he will retirei can't wait for brady to retire
The league will just pull out his 20 year old clone from Michigan and restart
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I was gonna dap this but you have to think relative to the comp. Wentz and Deshaun, the only legitimate elite contenders got hurt. Brady isn’t a high choice as MVP himself, so you can’t front like it’s outrageous. It’s all relative to this year, not prior years
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Nah you gotta put up video game numbers to win MVP at RB. If you don't run for 2,000 yards like AD or set the touchdown record like LT and Shaun Alexander
Gurley ain't having that type of season
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Gurley ain't having that type of season
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IsThatBrothaMouzone?
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NFL gotta keep those white fans. 70% of the league is black but only 8 brehs have won league MVP since 1997 (Barry Sanders in '97 and Steve McNair in '03 both had to share the trophy with Favre and Manning respectively).
Barry Sanders, Terrell Davis, Marshall Faulk, Shaun Alexander, LaDainian Tomlinson and Adrian Peterson are the RB's that have won in the last 20 seasons. Here are the average stats for their MVP years:
Rush Yards - 1,869
Rush TD's - 20
Yds/Carry - 5.5
Receptions - 42
Rec Yds - 359
Rec TD's - 3
So a running back needs to getting around 2,200 total yds from scrimmage and probably around 20 TD's or something close to get in the conversation.....no surprise that Jim Brown is the only RB to win the MVP more than once.
Gurley's has a shot, but it's iffy at best (very similar to Marshall Faulk in 2000 though):
Rush Yards - 1,305
Rush TD's - 13
Yds/Carry - 4.7
Receptions - 64
Rec Yds - 788
Rec TD's - 6
Barry Sanders, Terrell Davis, Marshall Faulk, Shaun Alexander, LaDainian Tomlinson and Adrian Peterson are the RB's that have won in the last 20 seasons. Here are the average stats for their MVP years:
Rush Yards - 1,869
Rush TD's - 20
Yds/Carry - 5.5
Receptions - 42
Rec Yds - 359
Rec TD's - 3
So a running back needs to getting around 2,200 total yds from scrimmage and probably around 20 TD's or something close to get in the conversation.....no surprise that Jim Brown is the only RB to win the MVP more than once.
Gurley's has a shot, but it's iffy at best (very similar to Marshall Faulk in 2000 though):
Rush Yards - 1,305
Rush TD's - 13
Yds/Carry - 4.7
Receptions - 64
Rec Yds - 788
Rec TD's - 6
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I think Gurley should get it this year, he is the most important player in the best offense in the league.
-He wasn’t in the race until like 2 weeks ago when everyone else who wasn’t Tom Brady dropped out or disqualified themselves. The mvp race went something like this
1.)First 4 games-Alex smith/Kareem Hunt leading by a distance
2.)8 games in-Smith/Hunt drops out it’s brady Vs wentz
3.)12 Games in- Brady/Wentz/Wilson
4.)Wentz gets hurt, Seahawks become trash so they’re both out. Then it was about if Antonio Brown continues his pace and Pittsburgh beats NE. That didn’t happen and he got hurt.
-Other runningbacks have had better or comparable years on comparable teams and haven’t sniffed the award.
Ezekiel Elliot literally led the nfl in rushing on a team that finished with the 1 seed in their conference and didn’t come close last year
1.)First 4 games-Alex smith/Kareem Hunt leading by a distance
2.)8 games in-Smith/Hunt drops out it’s brady Vs wentz
3.)12 Games in- Brady/Wentz/Wilson
4.)Wentz gets hurt, Seahawks become trash so they’re both out. Then it was about if Antonio Brown continues his pace and Pittsburgh beats NE. That didn’t happen and he got hurt.
-Other runningbacks have had better or comparable years on comparable teams and haven’t sniffed the award.
Ezekiel Elliot literally led the nfl in rushing on a team that finished with the 1 seed in their conference and didn’t come close last year
Brady was 16/32 for 188 yards last year against Denver.
Both teams lost to Seattle last year and the QBs had similar games (Blount scored the 3TDs NE got and they were at home but I won’t hold that against him)
Overall, the Falcons played the 4th hardest schedule of defenses last year according to football outsiders and NE was 9th. Not a huge difference so I’ll give you that.
But, as far as the stats go, those were the ones I listed because they are the main ones we factor in when talking about MVP. I listed the rate stats to account for Brady missing those 4 games
Now if we wanna get into an overall talent on the team discussion then we can’t dismiss the fact that New England almost went undefeated without Brady with the offense not missing a beat with Jimmy G in there.
And as far as why the Falcons aren’t as good this year on offense and he doesn’t look the same:
1. We have a new coordinator who hadnt called plays at the NFL level before
2. We’re tied for the league lead in dropped passes, with about 8 of Matt’s 12 ints coming off of those drops. Julio himself is tied for second in drops
3. Teams have film on some of the things we exploited last year(Coleman can’t break one when we flex him out as a receiver because LBs are playing 10 yards off him and teams are going more zone)
4. Not getting the expected production out of the TE position(Hooper himself has accounted for 3 ints, one of which if he caught we would have beat Miami)
5. Last season was insanity, dude threw for almost 5000 yards at 9.3 yards per attempt. if they just ran the ball and kicked the field goal at the end of the SB it goes down as one of the best seasons a QB has ever had, hell it still is
We also play at a slower pace and the defense gives up longer drives which effectively shorten the game. The offense is still top 5 on a per drive basis in points and yards so you’re right he’s not necessarily that much worse beyond the typical regression coming off an insane season like last year.
Other running backs were competing against QBs having amazing seasons.
Due to injuries and regression passing numbers overall are down this year. Brady just got to 30 TDs last week and depending on how this week goes he may not even pass Wentz even though he’s been out the past few weeks.
They're still playing to lock in that #3 seed so I don't think they're going to rest him