How did AMIL flop? Why wasn't HOV able to make another Foxy?

[vdfebduderocks]

Amil couldn't thrive without other people on her tracks. She could never carry a solo joint on her own and didn't have the moxie or charisma to be a solo artist in the same manner that someone like Eve, Foxy, and Kim had. Just look at early interviews in the 90s where you'll read that Amil never wanted to be a solo artist - she preferred to be in the background with Major Coins - or a supporting artist.

Combine that with never having the appropriate work ethic to match her ego and the fact she was pregnant around the time Blueprint was released too. All those things marked her downfall.

The only defense I do have for her is that Jay & Dame had no idea on how to market Amil and R&B artists (see: Christion, Rell). They realized the hip-hop street team approach to marketing doesn't work with pushing R&B acts and doesn't work with pushing a female rapper like Amil.

Def Jam didn't really do it either outside of Foxy - which is why all of them signed to Columbia. But there was record label drama at Sony/Columbia - especially surrounding Cam'Ron - which Dame got involved in. Amil got her record out, but I'm sure her sophomore album would have had issues too.

 

[Deltron]

she got a face only @stomachlines could like

 

[ajnapoleon]

Wait .....


Jay signed her?


I thought 3 people owned the label


Why is it when something went bad its just Jay


But all the good things it was Dame


And Biggs is just in the corner

 

[get these nets]

She quit

Jay Z already addressed this.. He felt she didn't have the passion for it

He says there's no way he should be beating her to the studio. She didn't wanna put in the time & work in to get better so he dropped her

End of story.

She wasn't really good anyway.. I can't see how she would've gotten better with that voice

Charlie Baltimore was way better than her btw

That was a plea Jay Z copped when her album flopped. Beat her to the studio?
"Ghostwriter, and for the right price I can make your shyt tighter"

An all-time top tier rapper as the label head? She wasn't writing shyt.
Amil came in the studio to listen to/study reference tracks and then lay her vocals.

When projects underperform, entertainers can't tell the truth. They have to point fingers.

 

[Absolut da poet ®]

edit: random, is bad boy the only 97-05 major label that didn’t have a female rapper?

. Lil Kim isn't a female ??

. Lol

 

[Busby]

She quit

Jay Z already addressed this.. He felt she didn't have the passion for it

He says there's no way he should be beating her to the studio. She didn't wanna put in the time & work in to get better so he dropped her

End of story.

She wasn't really good anyway.. I can't see how she would've gotten better with that voice

Charlie Baltimore was way better than her btw

Memphis Bleek talked about it on “Drink Champs” a few years back. She was suppose to have a verse on “Hey Papi” but she only had the hook done. Hov got frustrated cause she kept lagging on turning in her verse. So he told Bleek to hop on the track and that you will not “hear or see her again.”

And that’s what happened…

 

[OHSNAP!]

bytch face was shaped like Thanos that's why

Let us see your mug

 

[OHSNAP!]

First and foremost, all female rappers after 1998 flopped with their projects, except Missy and Eve. Mia X never released another album, MC Lyte/Foxy/Kim/Brat/Boo etc flopped with every album (Trina did ok with her debut album), so that the music industry stopped pushing them as a whole

Amil with her subpar talent and rather annoying (for an entire album...) voice wasn't gonna make it

 

[cozy carl]

There was nothing really special about her. She was as average as they get...she was basically the female Bleek.

Bleek was handsome, he just wasn't consistent then he became Jigga's hypeman & became an afterthought​

 

[get these nets]

around the 57 min mark killah priest gives his opinion

Thanks for posting. I started it early than the time stamp, and heard KP confirm the Canibus story.

 

[get these nets]

edit: random, is bad boy the only 97-05 major label that didn’t have a female rapper?

Never thought about that.

Kim was under BIG. Bad Boy producers put her first two albums together, and she was affiliated with them. Guess Puffy didn't want to try to reinvent the wheel.

 

[shopthatwrecks]

if she couldnt fukk with rage

none of them bytches could see robin on the mic

it was cliche to find a hoe n write the bytch lyrics...

id put mia n rage against any of them 90s hoes...they would serve foxy charlie kim...eve amil charlie

 

[Controversy]

. Lil Kim isn't a female ??

. Lol

Lil Kim was NEVER signed to Bad Boy

 

[JoelB]

She wasn’t a great rapper and had a kinda annoying voice. People like her, vita, and Charli Baltimore got as much of a leg up as they were gonna get from their label affiliations as average ass rappers with an average mic presence

What vita been up to

 

[I'm Blackman]

Her voice...flows...presence...songs very average.