How did AMIL flop? Why wasn't HOV able to make another Foxy?

[JustCKing]

Why are people saying Amil STILL flopped with a single featuring Beyonce?

This was 2000. Beyonce was not some cheat code that carried singles back then. In fact, Jay Z is the only rapper to have success with a Beyonce feature. 50 Cent had a Beyonce feature in 2000 as well. Destiny's Child was huge during that era, but Beyonce was not the icon that she is now in 2000. This was the beginning of Beyonce becoming a solo act.

 

[DontEemTry]

Why are people saying Amil STILL flopped with a single featuring Beyonce?

This was 2000. Beyonce was not some cheat code that carried singles back then. In fact, Jay Z is the only rapper to have success with a Beyonce feature. 50 Cent had a Beyonce feature in 2000 as well. Destiny's Child was huge during that era, but Beyonce was not the icon that she is now in 2000. This was the beginning of Beyonce becoming a solo act.

Straight facts. Low key people forget that the first time Beyonce had a single go Number 1 as a solo artist was with "Crazy In Love"

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

I remember she had a damn song with beyonce and still flopped



had to drop amil..

TBF, beyonce wasnt Beyonce yet. She was far from being a stimulus to a single, hadn’t even started her solo career

 

[Kliq_Souf]

Once she dissed Murphy Lee in that Hot 97 interview most radio stations stopped pushing her

LMAO when was this? thats random as hell

And wasn't she pretty much out of here by the time anyone even knew who Murphy Lee was?

 

[Formerly known as...]

Why are people saying Amil STILL flopped with a single featuring Beyonce?

This was 2000. Beyonce was not some cheat code that carried singles back then. In fact, Jay Z is the only rapper to have success with a Beyonce feature. 50 Cent had a Beyonce feature in 2000 as well. Destiny's Child was huge during that era, but Beyonce was not the icon that she is now in 2000. This was the beginning of Beyonce becoming a solo act.

Facts

 

[Artificial Intelligence]

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[breakfuss]

Her best song (4 Da Fam) would still be great if she never made the studio session. That's why she flopped.

I skip her verse single every time. That's probably an all-time great beat. Shame.

 

[just my thoughts]

Dudes really pretending like Jay-z didn't write her first single amongst others. so calling her wack is basically saying.......

 

[CrimsonTider]

Dudes really pretending like Jay-z didn't write her first single amongst others. so calling her wack is basically saying.......

That had nothing to do with it

 

[get these nets]

Why are people saying Amil STILL flopped with a single featuring Beyonce?

This was 2000. Beyonce was not some cheat code that carried singles back then. In fact, Jay Z is the only rapper to have success with a Beyonce feature. 50 Cent had a Beyonce feature in 2000 as well. Destiny's Child was huge during that era, but Beyonce was not the icon that she is now in 2000. This was the beginning of Beyonce becoming a solo act.

The collabo made sense, and was meant to get the new artist more airplay and video play. Beyonce was the lead singer/breakout star of a mega popular R&B act after all. The solo acts that splintered from the boy bands got asked for features as they were trying to establish themselves for the same reason.
Song just flopped.

 

[JustCKing]

The collabo made sense, and was meant to get the new artist more airplay and video play. Beyonce was the lead singer/breakout star of a mega popular R&B act after all. The solo acts that splintered from the boy bands got asked for features as they were trying to establish themselves for the same reason.
Song just flopped.

What I'm saying a Beyonce feature in 2000 wasn't sure shot path to a successful single. Even with the boy bands splintering off, how many of them actually were successful in 2000 besides Sisqo.

The crazy part about it is they had just released "Hey Papi" months earlier and Amil was on the hook. It wasn't a smash, but definitely bigger than the single from her own album. Why not just have her drop a verse there? To make it worse, they dropped The Dynasty a month after her album dropped. Bleek's album also dropped around d the same time.

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

Dudes really pretending like Jay-z didn't write her first single amongst others. so calling her wack is basically saying.......

takes more than lyrics to be dope - you need the right voice, delivery, mic presence, etc. she had a terrible voice and delivery and on the superficial side, was mediocre-looking

Lil Kim could have Carti writing for her and sound dope, she by far has one of the best voices and deliveries of all female rappers...

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

The collabo made sense, and was meant to get the new artist more airplay and video play. Beyonce was the lead singer/breakout star of a mega popular R&B act after all. The solo acts that splintered from the boy bands got asked for features as they were trying to establish themselves for the same reason.
Song just flopped.

beyonce still wasn't it, her solo songs like Summertime and Work It Out weren't blazing the charts, yea, everyone expected her to go solo, but it wasn't a given she'd be the pop/crossover r&b megastar she became by 08, she easily could've tracked more on the "popular in the black community only" type success (someone like Monica, Keyshia Cole or Mya)

 

[Bolzmark]

She wasn’t dedicated to making music and has admitted that.

 

[get these nets]

beyonce still wasn't it, her solo songs like Summertime and Work It Out weren't blazing the charts, yea, everyone expected her to go solo, but it wasn't a given she'd be the pop/crossover r&b megastar she became by 08, she easily could've tracked more on the "popular in the black community only" type success (someone like Monica, Keyshia Cole or Mya)

What I'm trying to say is that once a group achieves a certain amount of crossover success and mainstream airplay, plucking the most visible member of that group for a feature can help you get access to those mainstream playlists, as well.
Nas got Lauryn on the hook for If I Ruled the World, before she became a solo act but fresh off the heels of the mainstream success of The Score. Opened up airplay and videoplay to him that he wouldn't have gotten otherwise.
Before she became a megastar in her own right.

On paper, the collabo made sense.....was just a flippity flop.