How Did Hip Hop Get So Old?

[OnlyInCalifornia]

Respect to the Chicago movement for getting their voices heard... Besides that aint too many...

Odd Future?

Drake started late, Nicki took a while to buzz, a lot of those newer people took a while to blow up because the older guys were still hogging the lanes IMO. Kendrick was working hard in LA for 3-4 years before people really took notice all over.

 

[OG Talk]

Odd Future?

Drake started late, Nicki took a while to buzz, a lot of those newer people took a while to blow up because the older guys were still hogging the lanes IMO. Kendrick was working hard in LA for 3-4 years before people really took notice all over.

I recognize odd future and felt it was refreshing when Tyler was dissing "40 year old n1ggas in Gucci belts".. But then I feel like they eventually got swallowed by the machine they hated and that voice of decent got tempered...Can't really go that route when you spend so much time on Pharell and Pusha's dikk, and Kanye is hanging out at your store..

I feel they still ran to the gatekeepers (who are all old heads) for cosigns..Now they cant really keep dissing them...

 

[Homeboy Runny-Ray]

these days we still got 30 year olds living with parents and its considered normal behavior.

times have changed with the environment.

it lowers the crime rate tho.

im sure youre more comfortable walking by a 30 year old with a plush basement hook-up, rather than a 30-year old looking at you as food because he has financial issues and is living in an apartment that he doesn't like.

 

[OnlyInCalifornia]

I recognize odd future and felt it was refreshing when Tyler was dissing "40 year old n1ggas in Gucci belts".. But then I feel like they eventually got swallowed by the machine they hated and that voice of decent got tempered...Can't really go that route when you spend so much time on Pharell and Pusha's dikk, and Kanye is hanging out at your store..

I feel they still ran to the gatekeepers (who are all old heads) for cosigns..Now they cant really keep dissing them...

His music always sounded like a take of a little kid trying to be Pharrell though. Like a dark version bootleg version of Pharell. That was his major influence before anything so I don't really see it as them being swallowed up. They still get to pretty much do what they want musically. Not always my cup of tea but i don't feel like they've compromised their sound. If their sound completely switched up I'd agree but it really hasn't. They just aren't buzzing like they were.

I feel like Dr Dre and Snoop have slowed down newer acts coming from the Westcoast because everything had to go through them. Or people were waiting for their co sign.

 

[Homeboy Runny-Ray]

as for the thread, the industry been put a stranglehold on the game and sucked the life out of it.

that's why hip-hop is dead.

just think about all the potential great careers that never got that shot. a ton of talent has gone unheard in the past decade.

 

[2manyFCKNrappers]

it's the perspective people want to hear. i think the age where you're not 30 and long gone from 21 is the perfect reflective time to create music. you're old enough to know better but still young enough to not give a fukk and not be looked at like a complete weirdo.

 

[Marvel]

Odd Future?

Drake started late, Nicki took a while to buzz, a lot of those newer people took a while to blow up because the older guys were still hogging the lanes IMO. Kendrick was working hard in LA for 3-4 years before people really took notice all over.

Co-sign. Big Daddy Kane and his generation were no longer buzzin. It made it real easy for young dudes at the time like Nas, Snoop, Pac, and BIG to get in the game.

 

[Will Ross]

It's because guys like jayz would not let the youth really shine.

 

[tybo]

Or maybe young rappers ain't got shiit to say now and the public ain't feeling it. Nas, Cube, KRS, Kast, Tribe, Pac Biggie and others really had some thought provoking shyt to talk about when they debuted at 21 or younger (or at the very least a dizzying array of skills). Now you couldn't pay me to buy some young niqqa's album talking about molly and tight jeans and eating ass . That being said, there is still a surprising amount of trash littering the airwaves.

 

[OG Talk]

it lowers the crime rate tho.

im sure youre more comfortable walking by a 30 year old with a plush basement hook-up, rather than a 30-year old looking at you as food because he has financial issues and is living in an apartment that he doesn't like.

It makes society itself softer though....

A n1gga thats forced to be out on his own by 18, facing the harsh realities is less likely to react like Jonathan Martin when faced with the Richie Incognito's of life...

This is the first generation of Black men post Lincoln that white boys don't fear...

 

[FRIED MASON]

 

[OG Talk]

it's the perspective people want to hear. i think the age where you're not 30 and long gone from 21 is the perfect reflective time to create music. you're old enough to know better but still young enough to not give a fukk and not be looked at like a complete weirdo.

You trying to tell me we couldn't get 2 Chainz or French Montana's "life perspective" from the average 20 year old HS dropout in the hood?

Ain't like these old n1ggas is dropping jewels...




I would argue that Joey Bada$$ at 17 has more insight than most of these late 30's rappers I listen to....

 

[2manyFCKNrappers]

You trying to tell me we couldn't get 2 Chainz or French Montana's "life perspective" from the average 20 year old HS dropout in the hood?

Ain't like these old n1ggas is dropping knowledge...

i was referring to the A level rappers you mentioned in your first post. I didn't even consider their "perspective".


and Joey Badass is

 

[Marvel]

Also RnB was really the genre to be in for a while even during the rise of hip hop. Look at charts from the late 80s and early 90s. Outside of MC Hammer, rap wasn't topping the charts heavy for a while. 93-99 gave a us better balance of the two. Today, RnB is not as poppin as it once was, in fact RnB is better received today when it comes from a white artist like Ariana Grande, JT, and Robin Thicke. The Neptunes and Timberlake don't even work black RnB cats anymore

 

[Homeboy Runny-Ray]

it's the perspective people want to hear. i think the age where you're not 30 and long gone from 21 is the perfect reflective time to create music. you're old enough to know better but still young enough to not give a fukk and not be looked at like a complete weirdo.

the best rap music usually comes from teenagers to the mid-20s cats.

that's really what this rap chit was built to be about in the very 1st place.

It's because guys like jayz would not let the youth really shine.

THIS.

BEST POST THUS FAR.

Or maybe young rappers ain't got shiit to say now and the public ain't feeling it. Nas, Cube, KRS, Kast, Tribe, Pac Biggie and others really had some thought provoking shyt to talk about when they debuted at 21 or younger (or at the very least a dizzying array of skills). Now you couldn't pay me to buy some young niqqa's album talking about molly and tight jeans and eating ass . That being said, there is still a surprising amount of trash littering the airwaves.

that's because these are the rappers that the industry wants you to hear.

theres plenty young dudes still spittin that thurl chit and that real chit. they weeded us out of our own genre.

WE LOST IT MAN. WE F*CKIN LOST IT. THEY GOT US.

It makes society itself softer though....

A n1gga thats forced to be out on his own by 18, facing the harsh realities is less likely to react like Jonathan Martin when faced with the Richie Incognito's of life...

This is the first generation of Black men post Lincoln that white boys don't fear...

LOL.

i was about to get the putters putin until i saw that troll smiley.

You trying to tell me we couldn't get 2 Chainz or French Montana's "life perspective" from the average 20 year old HS dropout in the hood?

Ain't like these old n1ggas is dropping jewels...




I would argue that Joey Bada$$ at 17 has more insight than most of these late 30's rappers I listen to....

Also RnB was really the genre to be in for a while even during the rise of hip hop. Look at charts from the late 80s and early 90s. Outside of MC Hammer, rap wasn't topping the charts heavy for a while. 93-99 gave a us better balance of the two. Today, RnB is not as poppin as it once was, in fact RnB is better received today when it comes from a white artist like Ariana Grande, JT, and Robin Thicke. The Neptunes and Timberlake don't even work black RnB cats anymore

that's because the pharrell and timbaland are sellouts and just care about a buck.

theres a black person behind every instance of culture thievery.