How did Pippen fall off so hard after leaving Chicago?

[Professor Emeritus]

Yea,that was a finals matchup

Jazz were giving at least 10mpg to five different White guys and every one was either 34+ or complete trash.

First big off the bench was 36yo Antoine Carr.

No one other than Malone averaged 11ppg or over 5rpg in the series. No one.



And the Chicago wins were:

Game 2: Win 93-88 when Malone only goes 5-16 for 16 points.

Game 3: The 44-point blowout where the entire Jazz team outside Malone shot 13-59 (22%) for the game.

Game 4: Win 86-82 when Malone needs 21 shots to score 21 points and no one else on the the Jazz has more than 10.

Game 6: Win 89-88 on Jordan's buzzer-beater


Can you imagine someone saying to Lebron before the series, "Well, this team has started 4 White guys all season, two are 34+ and the other two are Keefe and Foster. They only make 3 threes a game and are going to shoot 21% from three in the Finals. They are slow on defense and their guards are old and undersized. Do you think you can beat them?"

Lebron: "Well, if we can keep Malone below 20 a few times and squeeze out some close wins, then I think we might have a chance to keep it from going 7."

 

[MikelArteta]

He wasn't that bad in Portland I think they ran like ten deep

Sabonis
Wallacr
Pippen
Smith
Stoudamire

Davis
Grant
Schempf
Porter

 

[Professor K.]

Pip ain’t bending them knees for shyt

 

[malbaker86]

Jazz were giving at least 10mpg to five different White guys and every one was either 34+ or complete trash.

First big off the bench was 36yo Antoine Carr.

No one other than Malone averaged 11ppg or over 5rpg in the series. No one.



And the Chicago wins were:

Game 2: Win 93-88 when Malone only goes 5-16 for 16 points.

Game 3: The 44-point blowout where the entire Jazz team outside Malone shot 13-59 (22%) for the game.

Game 4: Win 86-82 when Malone needs 21 shots to score 21 points and no one else on the the Jazz has more than 10.

Game 6: Win 89-88 on Jordan's buzzer-beater


Can you imagine someone saying to Lebron before the series, "Well, this team has started 4 White guys all season, two are 34+ and the other two are Keefe and Foster. They only make 3 threes a game and are going to shoot 21% from three in the Finals. They are slow on defense and their guards are old and undersized. Do you think you can beat them?"

Lebron: "Well, if we can keep Malone below 20 a few times and squeeze out some close wins, then I think we might have a chance to keep it from going 7."

Nice for you to shoe horn Lebron in there....as usual

 

[hayesc0]

He wasn't that bad in Portland I think they ran like ten deep

Sabonis
Wallacr
Pippen
Smith
Stoudamire

Davis
Grant
Schempf
Porter

I loved that squad.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Nice for you to shoe horn Lebron in there....as usual

Yet again proving what I wrote about haters.

Step 1: Make up a lie.
Step 2: Vaguely pretend that thing (which didn't even happen that time) happened regularly.
Step 3: When confronted with facts, ignore them to say something about Lebron stans
Step 4: Make a new thread just as stupid

Congratulations on having nothing to rebut so jumping right to Step 3

I loved that squad.

It was a really interesting squad in that they had no dominant force, but could kinda do a little bit of everything and each individually were tough to stop. A lot of vets too.

What killed them was their lack of a 2nd big man and their reliance on jump shots.

 

[beenz]

Back problems plus an old Charles Barkley was an absolute black hole playing on the rockets as well.

 

[Ruby'sRevolver]

The main reason was his back, he had 2 different surgeries on his back during his career, the second surgery was after the '98 Finals for two herniated discs( he also had foot surgery before the 97-98 season and missed the first few months of the reg. season). You combine that with all the mileage he had on his body from all those deep playoff runs with the Bulls (he played heavy minutes too) and he just wasn't quite the same player after that, also, I don't think he was ever really comfortable playing in Houston (he still played pretty well for them, IMO) that's why he didn't last long there and by the time he got to Portland he was clearly on the back-end of his career, but was still an effective player, just no longer the elite defender he once was.

Here's a big game he had vs. the Lakers in the 1999 playoffs. Pip put up 37 pts, 13 rebs, 4 assists, and the 3 stls. (killing Kobe in the post)

 

[beenz]

naw at Portland he was ballin they had a good team pippen ran the show u better go re check that .

Yup. He didn't need to score 20ppg in Portland.

He was cruising during the regular season. Cuz he played much better in the Portland playoff runs.

 

[WesCrook]

The only "fall-off" was his stint with the Rockets. They made him a spot up shooter camping behind the arc on most possessions. Bad fit from the start.

 

[letti cook]

Pip was dope on the blazers.. you had to be there, i guess..that team was super deep so nobody was going to put up crazy stats

its like trying to explain how amazing Penny Hardaway was and young brehs look at his numbers like " 21 & 7, huh "

 

[Jplaya2023]

his back was fried

 

[Brandon M.]

start watching basketball in 2018 brehs

 

[god shamgod]

Pippen played 50 games at 40 mpg during the lockout season then played 82 games at 33 mpg after his back surgery stop using that wakk back injury excuse

The truth is he lost his 3 security blankets 1. Jordan 2. Phil jackson 3. Triangle offense

 

[Art Barr]

After his whole bad attitude spat with Krause which ruined his spirit. Yet even worse allowed him to create an alternate pro game based on half effort and schluP'n it. Mad because kukoc was making more and into it with Krause. By the time pip left his attitude made his alternate progame into his real game and he never had the muscle memory. Nor that long term discoveryzone with mike to reacquire the skills he let lapse schlup'n it with a pisspoor attitude.


Those Scottie schlups it year became what Scottie played like for real. When he just should have went even harder and scored more almost selfishly. Yet he did not, he deferred to being the schlup'r then.
In effect Krause basically won.
Simply because now pip's alternative game became the game Krause said was his real game on paper.
Making that game authenticated on paper his real game and his pay is what he got and later hurt him as well.

Art Barr