How did the Pac/Jay Z beef get started?

[Still Benefited]

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because biggie said "Maniacs, put my name in raps, what part the. Game is that? Like they hustle backwards"

"[Biggie] called me. He said, 'Let's get together.' He said that everyone was a little nervous about it, but he was calling me about getting busy," Nas explained. "Getting me and Big in the same room wasn't easy. I had just dropped my record, and my schedule was crazy. Biggie was in Miami recording Life After death. It was just timing. We were supposed to get together and talk more, so who knows what would have happened."

And before yall say Nas was lying,I remember it being confirmed in a interview by either Dilla or somebody in his camp before Nas ever spoke on a Biggie and Nas diss that was supposed to happen,people just thought he was full of shyt....Not sure what more proof you need than the cowardly act of dissing Pac after he was dead and couldn't respond,it was obvious Biggie wanted to diss Pac but didn't have the confidence to do it alone.....I guess it is hustling backwards when you know you bout to take that L without help from Nas....Nas wasn't even known for battling back then,wonder how many nikkas Biggie called before he dialed Nas number?Wonder if Nas even gave Biggie his number

 

[Afromaticz]

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"[Biggie] called me. He said, 'Let's get together.' He said that everyone was a little nervous about it, but he was calling me about getting busy," Nas explained. "Getting me and Big in the same room wasn't easy. I had just dropped my record, and my schedule was crazy. Biggie was in Miami recording Life After death. It was just timing. We were supposed to get together and talk more, so who knows what would have happened."

And before yall say Nas was lying,I remember it being confirmed in a interview by either Dilla or somebody in his camp before Nas ever spoke on a Biggie and Nas diss that was supposed to happen,people just thought he was full of shyt....Not sure what more proof you need than the cowardly act of dissing Pac after he was dead and couldn't respond,it was obvious Biggie wanted to diss Pac but didn't have the confidence to do it alone.....I guess it is hustling backwards when you know you bout to take that L without help from Nas....Nas wasn't even known for battling back then,wonder how many nikkas Biggie called before he dialed Nas number?Wonder if Nas even gave Biggie his number

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

Is that you Memphis Bleek?


If Jay held true to his promise and you dont have to rap again to be rich, I understand your support. I disagree that you've been 1 hit away your whole career tho B.

You must not be familiar with my posting history, because as I said before I am arguably the GOAT Jay Z hater and I devoted precious hours of my life here toward the righteous purpose of shytting on Jay Z.

But I gotta be honest here when I see people say bullshyt like he was a cornerboy or a nickel and dime seller or he's lying about moving coke. I'm sure he's lying about some stuff, such as the infamous 92 bricks, but I have it on A1 word that dude was indeed moving some serious weight, and this was when he still only had Hawaiian Sophie and Can I Get Open fame.

He's a slimy dikkriding camelmeleon fakkit who loves the attention and would trade his left nut for white acceptance but his street cred is legit. It is what it is.

 

[Gangstar8]

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"[Biggie] called me. He said, 'Let's get together.' He said that everyone was a little nervous about it, but he was calling me about getting busy," Nas explained. "Getting me and Big in the same room wasn't easy. I had just dropped my record, and my schedule was crazy. Biggie was in Miami recording Life After death. It was just timing. We were supposed to get together and talk more, so who knows what would have happened."

And before yall say Nas was lying,I remember it being confirmed in a interview by either Dilla or somebody in his camp before Nas ever spoke on a Biggie and Nas diss that was supposed to happen,people just thought he was full of shyt....Not sure what more proof you need than the cowardly act of dissing Pac after he was dead and couldn't respond,it was obvious Biggie wanted to diss Pac but didn't have the confidence to do it alone.....I guess it is hustling backwards when you know you bout to take that L without help from Nas....Nas wasn't even known for battling back then,wonder how many nikkas Biggie called before he dialed Nas number?Wonder if Nas even gave Biggie his number

Nas hated biggie tho he was a jealous mofo

 

[Still Benefited]

Nas hated biggie tho he was a jealous mofo

Maybe he was,i wouldn't be surprised if he wanted to see Biggie fall to Pac,or just for Pac to make Biggie look weak enough that he himself could come in and shyt on Biggie

What is it Nas former friends call him?King Cobra? "We from the bottom"....doesn't change Biggie calling him out of desperation though.

Biggies snake tactics make Nas look like a salamander or catapillar.

 

[Nomad1]

to all yall delusional azz nikkaz acting like pac ONLY diss people who deserved it





dem nikkaz who he diss - didnt fell that , pretty much all dem nikkaz felt it was strictly affiliation purposes

Fugees apparently were talking slick about the west on some awards show. But I think they squashed it because there's a pic of Pac when he was in DR chilling with wylcef.

 

[IllmaticDelta]

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"[Biggie] called me. He said, 'Let's get together.' He said that everyone was a little nervous about it, but he was calling me about getting busy," Nas explained. "Getting me and Big in the same room wasn't easy. I had just dropped my record, and my schedule was crazy. Biggie was in Miami recording Life After death. It was just timing. We were supposed to get together and talk more, so who knows what would have happened."

And before yall say Nas was lying,I remember it being confirmed in a interview by either Dilla or somebody in his camp before Nas ever spoke on a Biggie and Nas diss that was supposed to happen,people just thought he was full of shyt....Not sure what more proof you need than the cowardly act of dissing Pac after he was dead and couldn't respond,it was obvious Biggie wanted to diss Pac but didn't have the confidence to do it alone.....I guess it is hustling backwards when you know you bout to take that L without help from Nas....Nas wasn't even known for battling back then,wonder how many nikkas Biggie called before he dialed Nas number?Wonder if Nas even gave Biggie his number

@ 2:30

 

[DPG]

Fugees apparently were talking slick about the west on some awards show. But I think they squashed it because there's a pic of Pac when he was in DR chilling with wylcef.

"I remember the Fugees dissed me on the air and on MTV. Not personally, but they dissed the West coast. “California love? East side is the best side.” I seen them. All them nikkas talking about how much they respect me and love me…and…see I hate that…because I be dead serious!"

That 2Pac/Wyclef picture could've been taken before the beef started; Pac did call their album (The Score) dope on Yo! MTV Raps in early '96.

 

[Dirty D]

@ 2:30

 

[Nomad1]

Nas shyt

Nas was saying "fake thugs no love you get the slug" and who was the nikka that was repping that thug life shyt Nas always maintained that when he went at Pac he felt like he had to since he was the "representer" for NY (something like KONY). Nas saying that line was directed at Biggie makes no sense since Biggie wasn't really calling himself a thug around that time.

They squash it at the House of Blues (don't know if nikkas know this)
Nas comes out saying "Black pirellis rolling over this makaveli" then Pac disses him back (watch ya mouth, war gamez, etc) then the officially squash it in ny

he Mobb Deep shyt.

Mobb Deep apparently snubbed the Outlawz in a concert and they dissed DPG and Snoop, Pac was the new artist on DR so he felt he had to prove himself and throw disses at them.

I like how you think it was like "Pac disses random nikkas and they diss back" type situation.

Remember guys, Badboy released Who Shot Ya first. They capitalized on Pac's situation to release a song that might have been recorded before Pac was shot but released it knowing ppl would think they were dissing Pac, all of that for some publicity they thought was going to die down and thought Pac was going to brush it off. that obviously didn't happen

 

[Nomad1]

Pac versus Jay. Pac would lost by definition. Because he was an emotional, paranoid, all kinds of female ways cultivating, impulsive and insecure biatch. He was DMX, but in gay and in fake.

Jiggas cool would make Pac look like a clown. And Pac was never a man to me, he was always a little fatherless boy behaving bad. Where Jay-Z didn't smoke weed and created an empire, Pac drank, took E and smoked his damn mind out and lost his life to the effects of the resulting psychosis.

didnt CameL Z warrior start a beef with Nas because he was an insecure fakkit? What did Nas do? Just ether him and let his little ass cry on Hot 97 talking bout "bububub Nas wont accept me" clown. And you're a cac disgusting.

 

[Dirty D]

When they used the Biggie verse from that Dilla beat on Dangerous MC's from Born Again, they started his verse halfway through, AFTER he said:

And the winner is
Not that thinner kid
Bandanas, tattoos

Then they start the verse with the rhyme

My fist never bruise

 

[Still Benefited]

@ 2:30

Props on coming through with the proof...I remember bringing it up before and cats saying Nas was a weedhead who imagined it,and I didn't have a link.

No wonder Pac thought Nas was the ringleader in 96?Nas lil homies Mobb Sleep taking shots,Biggie being unwilling to push the button without Nas by his side on the track,Dr Dre getting on tracks where Nas calling nikkas involved in the east/west shyt corny,Jay takin shots on songs where he samples Nas.

The goat decided to just go ahead and take out the head to destroy the tail,by ruining the confidence of the rest of the east who looked up to Nas,on some Sun Tzu shyt

Just imagine the effect it would've had on east coast rappers hearts, as Pac essentially made they idol Nas , his ally and possibly newest member of the Outlawz

Nas Bin Laden

 

[Still Benefited]

"I remember the Fugees dissed me on the air and on MTV. Not personally, but they dissed the West coast. “California love? East side is the best side.” I seen them. All them nikkas talking about how much they respect me and love me…and…see I hate that…because I be dead serious!"

That 2Pac/Wyclef picture could've been taken before the beef started; Pac did call their album (The Score) dope on Yo! MTV Raps in early '96.

And east side and best side don't even rhyme,so we all know who they was getting at.

 

[ucanthandlethetruth]

First off, if a nikka ain't at least 33 years old they shouldn't even be posting in this thread. With that said, PAC is probably the biggest phony of that era. That's what got his ass killed. Dude was method acting the whole time.
Yes I was of age around that time and I knew what the fukk happened unlike some of y'all nikkas in this thread. This is a topic strictly for us old heads

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