How do Black Christians rationalize the history of why they are Christian?

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i understand ops questions but don't waste your time, people have been way too indortrincated into religion to have theirs called into question

What part of the Christian religion is a problem for you?
How is it holding back the current generation of black people who are just Spiritual. How are the current youth held back by a religion they don't even follow.

Was Christianity forced on Ethiopians.

Seems like a cac thread because you're assuming black people are only Christians because of slavery when it clearly existed in Africa before slavery.

We won't even get into black nobility aka the black presence in Europe before slavery. Christianity been around and we been in it.
outside of ethiopia and kongo most of africa practiced either islam or some form of african traditional religion and a few may have been jewish here and there
 

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Easily.
Christianity predates slavery and was adopted in Africa before the Atlantic slave trade minus slave traders. 1sr 2nd century AD. You don't know who was Christian and who was not.
yes you do, we know that at least 30% of the africans taken as slaves practiced islam

a lot of you tout africa this and africa that but none of you know jack shyt about the continent

mention to me the specific ethnic groups that were christians outside of ethiopia and the kongo
 

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And no - im not an atheist at all. I fully believe and talk to God/The Creator/higher power daily, just make my own rules of life with him, and do my best to be a kind person to everyone.

I don’t subscribe to any man-delivered religions or messages.

But how does everyone (my family, your family, etc) just gloss over the only reason we as Black folks follow the Christian religion is due to being beaten into it through Slavery and Colonialism. (Talking about the majority of us Americans, Caribbeans, Africans, not any ancient Ethiopians or whatnot with their own form of Christianity)

do we all just ignore/not even look at history?
You say this while speaking English. :mjlol:
 

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:gucci: The fact i even have to explain the difference….

I dont have the power to control what the main language spoken in the United States and Western World is, but religious beliefs are a 100% personal fully controllable thing….
The exact same thing can be said about religion. What the “main language” is has nothing to do with it if the “main religion” has nothing to with it either. You had no more of a choice in your religion as child than you did what language you spoke. If you’re beliefs system is a 100% personally controllable thing, then so is the language you speak. It’s easier to speak another language than it is to change your belief system if you had faith in it. And just like when you were old enough to make your own decisions about your faith, you are old enough to choose what language to speak.
 

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The exact same thing can be said about religion. What the “main language” is has nothing to do with it if the “main religion” has nothing to with it either. If you’re beliefs system is a 100% personally controllable thing, then so is the language you speak. It’s easier to speak another language than it is to change your belief system if you had faith in it.
false there is reason why jewish text was kept in hebrew and the koran was kept in arabic. the bible should have been kept in aramaic for good reason

no matter how much you want to ignore it, these middle eastern religions have been used for domination and control
 

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The exact same thing can be said about religion. What the “main language” is has nothing to do with it if the “main religion” has nothing to with it either. You had no more of a choice in your religion as child than you did what language you spoke. If you’re beliefs system is a 100% personally controllable thing, then so is the language you speak. It’s easier to speak another language than it is to change your belief system if you had faith in it.

fam, I can’t go to work, tomorrow and start emailing all my clients and bosses in Japanese :dwillhuh: Or go to McDonald’s and order my food in Malaysian.

but i can do research and become a muslim tomorrow, then a buddhist next week, then a hindu week after that. All without disrupting any parts of my life.
 

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Is that what you got from Christ's teachings? You're a globalist and a low life. Neither Christianity or Christ are Commies. The differences are glaring enough for me to question your intelligence with this post but you're probably feeling emotional after your last ban so maybe we can discuss later when You've calmed down.
The teachings of Christ are explicitly socialist if not out right communist in theory, he advocates for the abolition of money, state, and a universal brotherhood of man. If you disagree, take that up with Martin Luther King Jr, a democratic socialist who had many speeches on the relationship between Christianity and left-wing politics.

The fact is you don’t have any conception of socialism/communism outside of your right wing propaganda, and you have even less of an understanding of Christianity, because none of your political beliefs are in accord with the gospel.

You openly advocated getting rid of welfare services for homeless people, you have no compassion or sympathy whatsoever, and the fact you call yourself Christian is laughable.

Jesus: the meek shall inherit the earth
Mowgli: fukk the meek I ain’t paying taxes so those welfare chislers can scam me, cut social services for the homeless :pacspit:
 
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fam, I can’t go to work, tomorrow and start emailing all my clients and bosses in Japanese :dwillhuh: Or go to McDonald’s and order my food in Malaysian.

but i can do research and become a muslim tomorrow, then a buddhist next week, then a hindu week after that. All without disrupting any parts of my life.
Many people do. Do you know how many bilingual people are in this country? How many people speak English as simply a tool to communicate to people who DONT speak their language, not the other way around?

You’re not emailing clients and bosses or ordering McDonald’s. You’re recreationally speaking English right now when you are fully capable of learning your native language. People were born in this country and the first language they learned is their native one at home and English only to communicate with everyone else. People can “do research” and learn another language but YOU didn’t.

This whole notion of you can learn another religion but can’t learn another language is ridiculous.
 

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Communist are anti-religion
Yeah and so was Jesus. He literally tore down a temple for the same reason Communists are anti-state religion. He perceived it as being used by the state to oppress people. There’s numerous quotations in the Bible where Jesus explicitly warns about the dangers of religions that proclaim to be something they aren’t. “Beware the scribes who make long prayers in the market place, for they deprive widows of their houses.” The money lenders, render unto Caesar, Etc. All show Jesus’ disdain for mixing religion with money, the same criticism communists make.

“Religion is the opiate of the masses” meant that governments use organized religion as a system of keeping people under control, a thesis which has also been discussed by Malcolm X, Tolstoy, Nietzsche, and others.

That means they’re against organized religion, not necessarily the teachings of religious individuals. Marx explicitly compared Jesus and communism as liberating forces for lower classes, but this is TLR, so everyone’s understanding of communism is straight out of 1950
 
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This whole “ :umad: You nikkas preaching the white mans religion” while speaking the Kings English is hilarious.
 

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:mjlol: It's crazy to me that so many bp claim to be Christian while living like heathens and degenerates. Your bible also says to marry young so you won't be led into sin, so where's all the young married couples? Oh, that's right, they too busy wallowing in sin, like pigs in shyt.

Then they hit 30 and start lecturing the rest of us about Jesus. Worry bout yoself. :umad:

17On hearing this, Jesus told them, “It is not the healthy who need a doctor, but the sick. I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners.”

Mark 2:17 Jesus spitting. :whew:
 

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The teachings of Christ are explicitly socialist if not out right communist in theory, he advocates for the abolition of money, state, and a universal brotherhood of man. If you disagree, take that up with Martin Luther King Jr, a democratic socialist who had many speeches on the relationship between Christianity and left-wing politics.

The fact is you don’t have any conception of socialism/communism outside of your right wing propaganda, and you have even less of an understanding of Christianity, because none of your political beliefs are in accord with the gospel.

You openly advocated getting rid of welfare services for homeless people, you have no compassion or sympathy whatsoever, and the fact you call yourself Christian is laughable.

Jesus: the meek shall inherit the earth
Mowgli: fukk the meek I ain’t paying taxes so those welfare chislers can scam me, cut social services for the homeless :pacspit:
So are you now a believer in God and have you made your commitment to Christ?
 

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If they weren't Jews then they probably believe they all in hell

I do wonder about that...what happened to ancient Africans who died before Jesus?

This is one of the big issues that made me doubt Christianity: the fate of the unlearned. Nobody could provide a coherent explanation that I didn't find completely amoral and unjust, or didn't involve some deus ex machina (i.e. Jesus going down to hell to deliver the Good News).
 

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but i want our people to understand why we are here today, not just “well my granny did it”. No, dive into your history my brothers.

i think alot of people refuse to look at history critically or want to cover their ears and eyes because reality is too bitter sometimes.

nikka, I could sit here and teach you everything you think you know, and what you are about to learn without having to Google nothing or pull from a book.

Been there, done that several times over.

Humble yourself before I have to.
 
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