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I keep saying.....Some of y'all are only here because your parents couldn't afford an abortion :mjcry:
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honestly i want to graduate and build my up money first. but i dont want to stay home forever. i just try to do things that i know need to be done. the smallest things, take out the trash, do the dishes, clean the litter box, clean the bathroom, clean the couch, clean the tub
just whatever is possible to minimize the stress and to keep that anger and stress away from me. :yeshrug:

Most families in our community are in a state of disarray, financial ruin and disorganization.

Even given some of the dysfunction in my own family, we relatively have a strong unit compared to most Black families.

I think most of the stress boils down to these things:

- Too many kids
- Having kids too early
- Having kids when they weren't wanted (sometimes this can go for the Mother too)
- Unrealistic expectations and not enough hard work in fulfilling their own goals


3 of the causes of unhappiness and struggle are: Kids

The problem is Black people we lie to ourselves and say a child is always a blessing. The reality is a child is a tremendous burden that only a small group of elite blacks can afford to manage optimally.

In the Modern Era - Children are supposed to carry on a legacy that is already established. The problem with Black people is we have children with no legacy built and expect them to carry the reins, kick the child out at 18 or complain when he still at home and have not given him the proper tools to succeed in life. No foundation, no money, no business contacts, no skills for a trade. N-O-T-H-I-N-G.

Worse come to worst I could have been a train driver like my Pops. Or could have gotten into mechanics or IT with one of my Uncles. I had a lot of fallback options growing up that I really wasn't even thinking about because I was pretty intent on going on a certain path. Well that path changed but I still became relatively successful.

But regardless, most Black children don't have a fallback plan or resource. They are just stuck at home working McDonalds and shyt.

The Man does not want us to know this. But I firmly believe until family planning becomes more disciplined, as a people we are fukkED.

As evidenced by all the complaints in this thread about people's parents. A lot of my friends their parents seem like they didn't even want them that much.

They just want a baby to get sympathy and attention and money from friends and family. But when that baby grow up they done with it.

It was early for my parents to have a child. But my Father's side has a big family so there was support available. My great grandmother used to baby sit me as an infant until she passed away and then my Father's mother helped out until I was about 5 or 6 while my parents were at work. Most young Black parents especially in the 80's didn't have that and if they had relatives they wasn't trying to spare a dime or help them out and would be like "nikka this ain't no charity!" I was fortunate. They didn't have a lot of money but they worked hard to provide a decent life for me and parents on both sides helped a lot.

Nowadays in general these same nikkas parents don't want to spare a dime to help their own kids that I see out yet want grandchildren :francis: from those same kids. And they will value the grandchildren more than their own damn children. shyt just don't make any sense. Times have changed and not for the better IMO:ld:.

Long story short: Strap it up. Stop fukking these bytches raw.
 

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I think when you move out and begin to pay bills they view you as an adult finally. You can come back when times hard but getting out initially will probably change their view on you whether they like it or not. It's all about the decisions you make as well. If they see you progressing in your career and making good job moves, paying an adequate amount of expenses while you are there they have to respect your word.

Roommates aren't much better as you mentioned. When I was in college I had a couple of spoiled little CAC children I lived with in Junior year and it was like I was their Black Daddy. Couldn't clean up a room to save their lives. Thank god mice and roaches weren't really in the area otherwise I would have moved out that spot way before graduation. So I wasn't that enthusiastic to move out too quickly right after college until I got a good footing underneath me.

My Moms although she doesn't agree 100% with what I've done with my life (maybe like 85% is OK with it) she respects my decisions because I chose what is so far looking to be a good Woman and a good Career. Over time her opinion of my life decisions will eventually reach 100%. When I initially moved out her approval was probably at like 50% or less LOL. Took about 5 years to get to this approval rating. Every Mother has high hopes for their child. My Pops is far easier to please he is just glad I am with a Woman and not a Gay Man :russ: but in some ways that is more difficult because he wants a grandchild and I'm like nikka you know damn well kids cost money :feedme: especially in NYC.
I feel you. I was just pointing out being someones roommate or living with a partner might not be easier than your parents bytching. For example you pointed out your roommates were messy as fukk .
Parents bytching better than roommates who got beer bottles combined with the clothes every where on the floor and bits of weed all over the table in my opinion.
shyt like that sort of helps you understand why your parents always bytched about not making your bed.. helps you recognize the pigs.
 

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Most families in our community are in a state of disarray, financial ruin and disorganization.

Even given some of the dysfunction in my own family, we relatively have a strong unit compared to most Black families.

I think most of the stress boils down to these things:

- Too many kids
- Having kids too early
- Having kids when they weren't wanted (sometimes this can go for the Mother too)
- Unrealistic expectations and not enough hard work in fulfilling their own goals


3 of the causes of unhappiness and struggle are: Kids

The problem is Black people we lie to ourselves and say a child is always a blessing. The reality is a child is a tremendous burden that only a small group of elite blacks can afford to manage optimally.

In the Modern Era - Children are supposed to carry on a legacy that is already established. The problem with Black people is we have children with no legacy built and expect them to carry the reins, kick the child out at 18 or complain when he still at home and have not given him the proper tools to succeed in life. No foundation, no money, no business contacts, no skills for a trade. N-O-T-H-I-N-G.

Worse come to worst I could have been a train driver like my Pops. Or could have gotten into mechanics or IT with one of my Uncles. I had a lot of fallback options growing up that I really wasn't even thinking about because I was pretty intent on going on a certain path. Well that path changed but I still became relatively successful.

But regardless, most Black children don't have a fallback plan or resource. They are just stuck at home working McDonalds and shyt.

The Man does not want us to know this. But I firmly believe until family planning becomes more disciplined, as a people we are fukkED.

As evidenced by all the complaints in this thread about people's parents. A lot of my friends their parents seem like they didn't even want them that much.

They just want a baby to get sympathy and attention and money from friends and family. But when that baby grow up they done with it.

It was early for my parents to have a child. But my Father's side has a big family so there was support available. My great grandmother used to baby sit me as an infant until she passed away and then my Father's mother helped out until I was about 5 or 6 while my parents were at work. Most young Black parents especially in the 80's didn't have that and if they had relatives they wasn't trying to spare a dime or help them out and would be like "nikka this ain't no charity!" I was fortunate. They didn't have a lot of money but they worked hard to provide a decent life for me and parents on both sides helped a lot.

Nowadays in general these same nikkas parents don't want to spare a dime to help their own kids that I see out yet want grandchildren :francis: from those same kids. And they will value the grandchildren more than their own damn children. shyt just don't make any sense. Times have changed and not for the better IMO:ld:.

Long story short: Strap it up. Stop fukking these bytches raw.
its facts though. i dont get that. you want a grandbaby yet the main seed aint growing properly. my father was in his 30s and my mother was in her mid 20s. my father was a plumber and my other was a transcriptionist. and they were always focused on me getting my education. my mother told me from the get go, protect yourself. dont be like these other teenagers with kids with no concept on how to take care of them. i have a big family on my fathers side so there was always support. thing is my dad died while i was in middle school so i had to cultivate myself on my own. my brother wanted to help but he was trying to find his own journey of becoming a man as well. but i learned simple shyt from him. like gardening, fixing pipes, and cooking. just simple shyt. washing the car, pulling weeds, doing dishes properly. i remember my father would take me on plumbing jobs with him if i had no homework or if i stayed home. right now i have no job because im in college full time. i dont have enough time to work at the moment. but im building my career. im starting a podcast as soon as i get my mic. i dont know what it will be about. but it will help towards my goals.
 

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Moved out when I was 18. After I got out of the active duty Air Force I came home and lived with my mom for a total of a month. As soon as I came back I knew it wasn't going to work. She didn't realize that I was a grown ass man that was living on my own for years. She would as me where I was going and why I was out so late and I was, yeah this is not going to work. But if I was smarter I would have gutted it out and stacked my paper. Like others have said stay until you are really in an position to be comfortable on your own.
 

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Damn I feel sorry for these nikkas.

To be honest I don't think a lot of yall parents wanted yall. :mjcry:

That's why I am real careful about having kids. This is not normal to hate your children and treat them like shyt. :francis:

Or kick them out at 18 without a plan to be financially responsible. If my parents did that, best believe that a nursing home be available for them. :birdman:

IMO, this just motivates me to pass down to my son's when they come of age and are responsible for it. If I ever done that to my kids, I failed them as a father and failed generational wealth.
 

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Most families in our community are in a state of disarray, financial ruin and disorganization.

Even given some of the dysfunction in my own family, we relatively have a strong unit compared to most Black families.

I think most of the stress boils down to these things:

- Too many kids
- Having kids too early
- Having kids when they weren't wanted (sometimes this can go for the Mother too)
- Unrealistic expectations and not enough hard work in fulfilling their own goals


3 of the causes of unhappiness and struggle are: Kids

The problem is Black people we lie to ourselves and say a child is always a blessing. The reality is a child is a tremendous burden that only a small group of elite blacks can afford to manage optimally.

In the Modern Era - Children are supposed to carry on a legacy that is already established. The problem with Black people is we have children with no legacy built and expect them to carry the reins, kick the child out at 18 or complain when he still at home and have not given him the proper tools to succeed in life. No foundation, no money, no business contacts, no skills for a trade. N-O-T-H-I-N-G.

Worse come to worst I could have been a train driver like my Pops. Or could have gotten into mechanics or IT with one of my Uncles. I had a lot of fallback options growing up that I really wasn't even thinking about because I was pretty intent on going on a certain path. Well that path changed but I still became relatively successful.

But regardless, most Black children don't have a fallback plan or resource. They are just stuck at home working McDonalds and shyt.

The Man does not want us to know this. But I firmly believe until family planning becomes more disciplined, as a people we are fukkED.

As evidenced by all the complaints in this thread about people's parents. A lot of my friends their parents seem like they didn't even want them that much.

They just want a baby to get sympathy and attention and money from friends and family. But when that baby grow up they done with it.

It was early for my parents to have a child. But my Father's side has a big family so there was support available. My great grandmother used to baby sit me as an infant until she passed away and then my Father's mother helped out until I was about 5 or 6 while my parents were at work. Most young Black parents especially in the 80's didn't have that and if they had relatives they wasn't trying to spare a dime or help them out and would be like "nikka this ain't no charity!" I was fortunate. They didn't have a lot of money but they worked hard to provide a decent life for me and parents on both sides helped a lot.

Nowadays in general these same nikkas parents don't want to spare a dime to help their own kids that I see out yet want grandchildren :francis: from those same kids. And they will value the grandchildren more than their own damn children. shyt just don't make any sense. Times have changed and not for the better IMO:ld:.

Long story short: Strap it up. Stop fukking these bytches raw.


Exactly. Don't have kids till you dam near rich and mentally prepared. Having kids at a young age in the 21st century means death to most kinds of social mobility and 2 decades of unnecessary struggle financially.
 
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