How has having an MBA or other Graduate degree helped your career?

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wat about phd?

Ehhhh...PhD is really only if you want to go into academia/research.

I mean, there are a lot of PhDs that get "corporate" type jobs, but even then, there's still a lot of research to be done.

Let's take Wall Street as an example:

A PhD in Economics from Harvard will get you into Goldman Sachs but possible doing Equity/Pricing research. You'll be research bond-yield, creating very very complex models and such.

An MBA from Harvard will get you into Goldman Sachs but as an investment banker. You take the knowledge from the PhD holder but then apply it into the actual financial market.

Of course, this is a generalization but this is the conventional view. Only really get a PhD if you really like the 'Ivory Tower'.
 

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MBAs. I can't speak for myself as I don't have one yet, but from what I've seen, both from family and people at work, the MBA is a very good tool within the corporate world. In some corporate positions, it is damn near a requirement to get your foot in the door, think hedge funds, private equity, quantitative finance etc. From what I've seen and read, although the actual MBA curriculum is about the same regardless of school, it's the name and network that really hold value. E.g. My dad went to Yale. One of my mentors went to Stanford, two went to Harvard, another to Georgetown and another to Goizueta. All top 25 MBAs.

If anyone tells you where you get your MBA doesn't matter RUN far away from that person. If you're gonna drop 150-160k on a degree, then there has to be a reputable name behind it. Someone here broke down the MBAs by prestige and ranking, but I'd like to take it a step further.

Crème de la crème: Harvard, UPenn-Wharton, Stanford GSB, Chicago Booth, Northwestern Kellogg, Columbia, MIT Sloan. These are considered the M7. They're arguably the most recognized Business schools in America. Usually attending one of these schools is a good segue to a solid corporate position at a very solid firm. I'd even take it a step further to single out Harvard, Wharton and Stanford as probably being even a level above the rest. Harvard is Harvard. No two ways about it. Wharton is very good for folks looking to get into Finance, especially with more financial model based work. Stanford is the feeder school in Silicon Valley and the tech scene hands down. Another thing about these schools is their global appeal. As a Harvard grad, the corporate world, not just America, is wide open to you.

The Undisputed: Yale, UVA-Darden, Berkeley-Haas, Dartmouth-Tuck, Michigan Ross, Duke Fuqua, NYU Stern. You will never go wrong with these ones here. They're not quite "elite" status, although you could make the case for Yale simply because of the name, but you will not not go wrong with these schools. The thing you start finding out about these schools is that their class sizes get smaller. Where as Harvard has like 950 MBAs per class, Yale has less than 400 or so. Job postings do get a tad bit more localized (partially do to network) as you move down the rungs. I live in the DC area and I encounter a lot of Darden MBAs being that DC is the closet major metro area to Charlottesville, VA. Chicago gets a lot of MBAs from Ross and Fuqua distributes people all throughout the south

Strong Local Value: UCLA Anderson, Texas McCombs,UNC Kenan-Flagler, Carnegie Mellon Tepper, Emory Goizueta, Cornell Johnson, Georgetown McDonough. These round out the last bit of the top MBAs. Very good schools with great value. The the job placement, however, tends to be much much more localized. Don't really got to McCombs if you plan on getting a job in Wall Street. Most of the companies hiring will likely be based in either Dallas, Houston or a neighboring state. Same can be said for Goizueta. If you plan on working in ATL or a top southern city then school is a no-brainer. However, if you'd like to work in London then look elsewhere (not to say it isn't possible).

Anyway, that's my 2 cents. If you're going for an MBA, shoot for the top 25 (unless you have a scholarship/getting it paid for). No need to drop 150k on a degree if you will not be assured/have hope of clearing at least 95k-100k post graduation.

I will say this: MBAs are becoming increasingly popular outside of America. I know in Nigeria a top MBA is very popular within the right circles. But understand this, not everyone needs and MBA and not every career will require it.
 
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A PhD in Economics from Harvard will get you into Goldman Sachs but possible doing Equity/Pricing research. You'll be research bond-yield, creating very very complex models and such.

That's done by Math, Physics, Stats, Finance PhD's not Economics.
With a (good) PhD i any of these you could become a quant developer and get paid just like a trader.
Or an derivative structurer.
 

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MBAs. I can't speak for myself as I don't have one yet, but from what I've seen, both from family and people at work, the MBA is a very good tool within the corporate world. In some corporate positions, it is damn near a requirement to get your foot in the door, think hedge funds, private equity, quantitative finance etc. From what I've seen and read, although the actual MBA curriculum is about the same regardless of school, it's the name and network that really hold value. E.g. My dad went to Yale. One of my mentors went to Stanford, two went to Harvard, another to Georgetown and another to Goizueta. All top 25 MBAs.

If anyone tells you where you get your MBA doesn't matter RUN far away from that person. If you're gonna drop 150-160k on a degree, then there has to be a reputable name behind it. Someone here broke down the MBAs by prestige and ranking, but I'd like to take it a step further.

Crème de la crème: Harvard, UPenn-Wharton, Stanford GSB, Chicago Booth, Northwestern Kellogg, Columbia, MIT Sloan. These are considered the M7. They're arguably the most recognized Business schools in America. Usually attending one of these schools is a good segue to a solid corporate position at a very solid firm. I'd even take it a step further to single out Harvard, Wharton and Stanford as probably being even a level above the rest. Harvard is Harvard. No two ways about it. Wharton is very good for folks looking to get into Finance, especially with more financial model based work. Stanford is the feeder school in Silicon Valley and the tech scene hands down. Another thing about these schools is their global appeal. As a Harvard grad, the corporate world, not just America, is wide open to you.

The Undisputed: Yale, UVA-Darden, Berkeley-Haas, Dartmouth-Tuck, Michigan Ross, Duke Fuqua, NYU Stern. You will never go wrong with these ones here. They're not quite "elite" status, although you could make the case for Yale simply because of the name, but you will not not go wrong with these schools. The thing you start finding out about these schools is that their class sizes get smaller. Where as Harvard has like 950 MBAs per class, Yale has less than 400 or so. Job postings do get a tad bit more localized (partially do to network) as you move down the rungs. I live in the DC area and I encounter a lot of Darden MBAs being that DC is the closet major metro area to Charlottesville, VA. Chicago gets a lot of MBAs from Ross and Fuqua distributes people all throughout the south

Strong Local Value: UCLA Anderson, Texas McCombs,UNC Kenan-Flagler, Carnegie Mellon Tepper, Emory Goizueta, Georgetown McDonough. These round out the last bit of the top MBAs. Very good schools with great value. The the job placement, however, tends to be much much more localized. Don't really got to McCombs if you plan on getting a job in Wall Street. Most of the companies hiring will likely be based in either Dallas, Houston or a neighboring state. Same can be said for Goizueta. If you plan on working in ATL or a top southern city then school is a no-brainer. However, if you'd like to work in London then look elsewhere (not to say it isn't possible).

Anyway, that's my 2 cents. If you're going for an MBA, shoot for the top 25 (unless you have a scholarship/getting it paid for). No need to drop 150k on a degree if you will not be assured/have hope of clearing at least 95k-100k post graduation.

I will say this: MBAs are becoming increasingly popular outside of America. I know in Nigeria a top MBA is very popular within the right circles. But understand this, not everyone needs and MBA and not every career will require it.

I think Cornell could be added to section 3 plus Tepper is very good for Tech.
 

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That's done by Math, Physics, Stats, Finance PhD's not Economics.
With a (good) PhD i any of these you could become a quant developer and get paid just like a trader.
Or an derivative structurer.

I'd pushback on this. Economics at the PhD level is very very math intensive, especially when you get into Econometrics. Most definitely a Math, Physics or Stats PhD is more math based but to say an Economics PhD does not do high level financial modeling for a big bank or hedge fund is just not the case.
 

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I'd pushback on this. Economics at the PhD level is very very math intensive, especially when you get into Econometrics. Most definitely a Math, Physics or Stats PhD is more math based but to say an Economics PhD does not do high level financial modeling for a big bank or hedge fund is just not the case.

Fair enough but in Banking the Math/Physics guys rule when it comes to yield/risk/pricing models.
 

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Depends on the school like all degrees are not created equal neither are MBAs. It also depends on the field of work.

people need to stop saying this. i work for a fortune 10 company and they encourage employees to get graduate degrees from online schools such as strayer if possible, and these are for 6 figure salary positions.

don't pay an arm and a leg for shyt when you don't have to, and dont let people discourage you from furthering your education on some elitist shyt, like you're just wasting your time if you don't go to a prestigious school.
 

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people need to stop saying this. i work for a fortune 10 company and they encourage employees to get graduate degrees from online schools such as strayer if possible, and these are for 6 figure salary positions.

don't pay an arm and a leg for shyt when you don't have to, and dont let people discourage you from furthering your education on some elitist shyt, like you're just wasting your time if you don't go to a prestigious school.

Bro the top investment banks (Goldman, Deustche etc..) and management consulting firms (i.e McKinsey, Bain, BCG) tend to go on ON CAMPUS RECRUITMENT to TARGET SCHOOLS for the recruitment of graduate students. Target schools are considered top 20 MBAs. This is the easiest way to get into these reputable organizations because they can put a face to the CV and do on campus interviews. In my opinion, that's the value addition of going to those schools and not necessarily the subject matter being taught in the classroom.

I know it's sad but that's just the way it is. Call it elitist if you want to. I mentioned those two fields (investment banking & management consulting) because those are the two fields that tend to be the most lucrative hence attract people who want to make money and the competition is fierce. If you want to work for a startup, then it may be a different story.

Does that mean someone who didn't go to those target schools can't get in? No, but it's a lot harder even if you have a target school degree but you are out of school then you have to apply online like the thousands of others or rely on your network. I conclude by saying that MBA from a target school does not mean the substance or subject matter at school is different but due to those programs' networking and alumni representation/track record in the business world, those top companies recruit on campus which benefits the students because they don't have to compete with the rest of the general public for these jobs and are an advantage.

The wealthiest black businessman in the finance world is Robert Smith and he went to Columbia and worked for Goldman Sachs before starting his own private equity firm. That's just the reality of things. Going to those schools and getting those prestigious degrees opens doors that can't opened if you went somewhere else.
 
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Don't have a mba, have a "sister" degree MSM but it helped me get into the business/management side so I look at it as a positive.
 

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There's levels to the MBA

1. Elite Top 25 MBA - really no brainer here, except for the funding. You have to be a hotshot or work in a fast paced industry to get an employer to pay for it. And if you pay for it yourself it's gonna run you $75K-$100K. However, the opportunities coming out these programs will have you set.

2. Middle of the road MBA - Depends on what field you're in and how you want to catapult your career. I work with a lot of people with these type MBA's that are corporate directors and VP's 5-10 years earlier than it would have been if they didn't have the degree. But there's more risk depending on what field you are in. I've seen guys that got that type MBA and have really not moved up much since, an it only serves as a mild resume booster.

3. Low level MBA- Worthless if you are in a strong position already. Say you're a Brand Manager at P&G. It would serve no value. However, people stuck in clerical type roles, it can help you get your feet in the door on a legit corporate job. I have a low level MBA and I'd probably be working in accounts receivable or customer service without it. Instead I have a six figure corp finance job.

4. "Questionable" MBA (i.e University of Phoenix, other online commercial programs) - This one I really don't know. Maybe if you are a police officer or work at Enterprise Rent-A-Car, and you want to just get in the world of business.
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You trying to get one breh? I'm at Georgia Tech in the evening MBA program now. I think we're ranking like #25 in full-time and #17 for part-time programs. If you want some opinions on how the workload is, let me know.
 

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You trying to get one breh? I'm at Georgia Tech in the evening MBA program now. I think we're ranking like #25 in full-time and #17 for part-time programs. If you want some opinions on how the workload is, let me know.
I’m getting a MA in Econ but the info is transferable I believe
 
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