HOW in the hell was Pac better than Nas at rapping?

[intilectual recipricol]

sounds familiar...

except one was better... I'll let you tell it

 

[mobbinfms]

its quite simple. No matter how YOU feel or understand the line, when you say "unfold" a scroll, you have made no sense, because scrolls arent unfolded. You seem to not understand that simple fact. Itd be like if I said I cooked food in the refrigerator. You may simply assume that I meant stove, and still understand that I cooked food, but that doesnt change the fact that what I wrote makes no fukcin sense.

Until you understand that point, discussin naS with you is senseless. Until you understand that you cant "inflict compositions" then you will never understand naS makes no fukcin sense on illmatic.

You fail to even understand that we cant see his spelling and punctuation in songs, but we can hear the words. Words that he uses incorrectly. When you use words incorrectly the only result is to not make sense. Just because you make excuses for it doesnt mean naS is making sense when he spits that non-sense.


And when we're talking about a lyricist, we are talking about the lyrics... aka what they have written... (or thought up if they dont write)

"nacho cheese, I'm castro" is fukcin horrendous

You're wrong. Cooking food in a refrigerator actually makes no sense. What Nas did is more equivalent to saying he baked a cake when he meant to say broil. It's the wrong word - but it's clear what he meant. Cooking food on a refrigerator is just nonsensical.

An artist can manipulate language beyond its intended meaning to make a point thus inflicting a composition of pain on the listener is imagery. Again - stop listening with your head in the sand and try to be objective.

A lyricist is equally defined by flow. You may say the deepest most meaningful shyt - but if the flow and rhyme schemes are basic then that's a knock on you (classic criticism of Face).

"Nacho Cheese I'm Castro" is horrendous. But only if you bury your head in the sand and pretend like the next line doesn't connect.

Again - why don't you just take the third word out of every verse and argue that those lyrics are nonsensical? That's basically what you're doing here.

 

[daze23]

except one was better... I'll let you tell it

hmm, this is interesting. so only based on what's in those two quotes, you would say that Pac's quote is better?

 

[intilectual recipricol]

You're wrong. Cooking food in a refrigerator actually makes no sense. What Nas did is more equivalent to saying he baked a cake when he meant to say broil. It's the wrong word - but it's clear what he meant. Cooking food on a refrigerator is just nonsensical.

An artist can manipulate language beyond its intended meaning to make a point thus inflicting a composition of pain on the listener is imagery. Again - stop listening with your head in the sand and try to be objective.

A lyricist is equally defined by flow. You may say the deepest most meaningful shyt - but if the flow and rhyme schemes are basic then that's a knock on you (classic criticism of Face).

"Nacho Cheese I'm Castro" is horrendous. But only if you bury your head in the sand and pretend like the next line doesn't connect.

Again - why don't you just take the third word out of every verse and argue that those lyrics are nonsensical? That's basically what you're doing here.

cooking food in a refrigerator makes exactly the same amount of sense as unfolding a scroll. Until you recognize that I cant even respond to anything else you say.

 

[mobbinfms]

cooking food in a refrigerator makes exactly the same amount of sense as unfolding a scroll. Until you recognize that I cant even respond to anything else you say.

Repeating yourself doesn't make your argument better. Why don't you actually respond to my reasoning?

 

[ISO]

its quite simple. No matter how YOU feel or understand the line, when you say "unfold" a scroll, you have made no sense, because scrolls arent unfolded. You seem to not understand that simple fact. Itd be like if I said I cooked food in the refrigerator. You may simply assume that I meant stove, and still understand that I cooked food, but that doesnt change the fact that what I wrote makes no fukcin sense.

Until you understand that point, discussin naS with you is senseless. Until you understand that you cant "inflict compositions" then you will never understand naS makes no fukcin sense on illmatic.

You fail to even understand that we cant see his spelling and punctuation in songs, but we can hear the words. Words that he uses incorrectly. When you use words incorrectly the only result is to not make sense. Just because you make excuses for it doesnt mean naS is making sense when he spits that non-sense.


And when we're talking about a lyricist, we are talking about the lyrics... aka what they have written... (or thought up if they dont write)

"nacho cheese, I'm castro" is fukcin horrendous

Unfold the scroll, he's unrolling it. It's that simple, nobody analyses rhymes like that. It makes perfect sense, whether it's the right word or not everyone know what he's saying! This is rap, it isn't an English essay. What don't you get? He's inflicting compositions of pain, he's inflicting pain with his sick compositions (rhymes). Stop reading between the lines of every single verse, there isn't a single rapper that uses proper grammar. Rap is poetry and poetry usually doesn't abide by grammar.

 

[Allah]

cooking food in a refrigerator makes exactly the same amount of sense as unfolding a scroll. Until you recognize that I cant even respond to anything else you say.

you sound like the rhyme king breh

 

[daze23]

unfold

1. Open or spread out from a folded position.

2. Reveal or disclose (thoughts or information): "Miss Eva unfolded her secret exploits to Mattie".

possible triple, don't ask me how

 

[intilectual recipricol]

Unfold the scroll, he's unrolling it. It's that simple, nobody analyses rhymes like that. It makes perfect sense, whether it's the right word or not everyone know what he's saying! This is rap, it isn't an English essay. What don't you get? He's inflicting compositions of pain, he's inflicting pain with his sick compositions (rhymes). Stop reading between the lines of every single verse, there isn't a single rapper that uses proper grammar. Rap is poetry and poetry usually doesn't abide by grammar.

You provin my point... the nicca uses words incorrectly and you niccaz gotta make up a meaning for it...

"inflicting compositions of pain" doesnt make sense either. You have to, as the listener, try and discern WTF he was talking about. And yeah, rappers do use words correctly... if they dont suck.

 

[mobbinfms]

possible tripple, don't ask me how

Damn!

You just Ethered @Intellectual reciprocal. fukk he gonna do now!

 

[intilectual recipricol]

possible triple, don't ask me how

Damn, you provin my point...

the definition you highlighted stated "thought or information"

the naS lyric was "scroll"

Show me how you "unfold" one of these

 

[daze23]

Damn, you provin my point...

the definition you highlighted stated "thought or information"

the naS lyric was "scroll"

Show me how you "unfold" one of these

could thoughts or information be in a scroll?

 

[mobbinfms]

Damn, you provin my point...

the definition you highlighted stated "thought or information"

the naS lyric was "scroll"

Show me how you "unfold" one of these

You still don't get it. I'm done for the night.

 

[samtalksradio]

Nas is lyrically better and does everything Pac can do and even better. Nas made a whole album about Africa, which means he already surpassed 22pac when it comes to pro black music. Nas storytelling is much better and imaginative, The Massege>anything Pac ever spit. diss tracks they are even their. The only thing 22Pac does better is make sell out hip POP music. Nas wins, in he didn't have to be a loud mouth, dry snitching, paranoid emotional homo thug hanging in gay bar "having fun" to be that. Nas influenced 22Pac to make a whole song about his gun, when Nas did it first in way better... getting bodied was the best thing to happen to 22pac like Jadakiss say dead rappers get better promotion.

 

[intilectual recipricol]

could thoughts or information be in a scroll?

If he was talking thoughts then the scroll is worthless... he was trying to use apocalyptic and religious imagery but was too fukcin dumb to realize that scrolls are rolled up.

itd be easier for you to concede that he fukced up than to try and defend stupidity