FromBillionsCameOne
All Star
lol how is it cowardly when the ONLY person that really mattered would know exactly who it was about?
How is Drop a Gem not the G.O.A.T. diss track?
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Dirty D
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Suleiman Bey
Banned
They took his name off when he died.
That's insane to me breh. I was born in 1980, I'm guessing I got at least 10 years on you?
As for the Gucci/Jeezy beef, I remember that being a very minor story in what was it? 2005?
I couldn't even tell you when the Truth dropped, I always thought Gucci and Jeezy were wack and didn't pay much attention to them. I heard it a year or two ago when someone posted it here.
I thought they had another record that they didn't use because he died? Has the version with Pac's name leaked?
I see what your saying but I disagree. IMO there is nothing subliminal about Drop A Gem on Em and it was clear they were talking about pac. I have no problem with not saying names as long as it is clear who they talking about
I don't think anonymous is the right word either.
You're wrong.
Mobb Deep was one of the best known groups out of NY at the time....dissing (arguably) the biggest rapper in the world at the height of his popularity....after getting called out on "Hit Em Up", one of the biggest diss records in history.
"Drop A Gem On Em" was talked about in every major hip-hop publication. It wasn't some big ass mystery who it was about.
"The Truth" wasn't even an official single. It's a random song he just threw out. Unless you were heavy into rap you'd have no idea it even existed.
What year did you get into rap? You keep applying this "it's 2015, I just heard the song, no idea who it's about" mind state to 1996. Next you'll claim nobody knew "Long Kiss Goodnight" was directed at Pac because he didn't say his name.
Fred.
Jacaveli The Don
Superstar
Prodigy never did ballet as far as I know. The photograph was him in a Michael Jackson outfit as a kid.
Jay said it was a ballerina and everyone just went with it although it was clearly a lie
There was this though...
Three kids clearly not comfortable with what they are wearing...homey on the right feels right at home though
Man, y'all Mobb Deep motherfukkers are with the bullshyt?! Prodigy IS the Summer Jam screen! You Mobb Deep Motherfukkers can live with lies FOREVER?!?!...
Mobb were called out on records by 'Pac and Tha Dogg Pound, didn't need to respond to "L.A, L.A" because NO ONE was saying names.
And for ALL you bytch ass motherfukkers;
DJ Quik:
Yo, this is DJ Quik
Taking a second out with Tha Dogg Pound to let ya'll know something
If you're looking in the Source mag and don't see me
It's cause some nikkas on the East is the enemy
It's real
Daz:
Hey yo God
The Heads Is trippin' out in New York, B
(Oh.. fukk That! B! fukk That!)
fukk That!
Yo, money
They cant come down here and shoot no video
Money (buck 'em.)
In da studios
Nah what I'm Sayin?
Yall killin 'em.. (killin' Em)
Its Time..
Yo, Biggie!
Where the homie Snoop and shyt?
nikkaz trippin all out
Naw Mean?
Hey, yo!
Whats Up? Cuz?
Southside.. Dogg Pound
The shyt ain't feeling real no more
Downtown (Where Nate?)
Thug Life (nikkaz forget yall..)
Don't Stop.. (Dogg Pound)
Hollered at my homie Pac and shyt..phony ass
I Heard 2Pac fukked Biggie bytch, Faith
Thats on the Dogg Pound!
Heard about that shyt that happened in New York?
(Outlaw!) 4 real..
He said don't ever bring your ass back here
Unless you bring me a kid, bytch!
Bustaz.. we rock nikka
nikkaz I once thought I was down with and shyt (Dogg Pound gangstas) (La's Finest..)
They flipped the script on a nikka (So yall nikkaz wanna go to war?) (aaagh aaagh)
Same nikkaz settin the homies up and shyt, tryin to set us up?
(Ha Ha!) aaagh aaaagh "I bust first"
I'm like, goddamn
Know what I'm saying? (What the fukks goin on?)
Dumped $350 Worth of nut down her throat!
Kurupt:
I heard of Meth, Nas, and Red
I'm down with them
Indeed we all smoke weed and clown wit um'
Hung around wit um'
One man
I ran with his clan
There is only one land
nikkas down with me I can count on one hand
Come dumb I gets dumber
The double barrel pumper heat dumper
And I been rockin' mics since Funky Drummer
These adventures wreak Havoc speak lavish lifestyles
I crack your clavical for the cabbage
Rhyme savage
Introduction to death
Murder MCs til ain't shyt left
In the sector
Why must MCs flip like gymnastics
Just to get they whole ass whipped
Claim to be classic
But you don't set no classic examples
With ya
fukked up beats
And ya fukked up samples
Your last verbal war
You won't survive no more
I turned the channel cause nikkas you ain't live no more
I used to follow
But now you's a legend like Sleepy Hallow
I shoot to kill the horse pill u can't swallow
There's no tomorrow
nikka, it all ends
I been down with KRS since Boogie Down begins
That's my man
Now what's this I hear?
I was told to beware
I'm the inspirer
Dissed by a nikka I admired
Hell no this can't be
Now who the fukk is this I hear on the radio dissin' me?
B.I. double G.I. to the E
shyt's scorchin'
Doing a video for a song
That got blew out of porportion
I found he's the deadliest force
In a world where it all about glamour fame and fortune
nikka we Mobb Deep
So fukk you, Jeru, and any Tribe that Quest's to compete
We the elite
The psycho assassin is blastin'
And next time you hit L.A. nikka we mashin '
And that's without 'Pac's verse
DON'T GET A MOTHERfukkER STARTED....
Foxmulder
Superstar
No they didn't. Song came out before he died and his name was never on it. They took his name off some songs on Hell On Earth.
MrFirst2doit
All Star
That's because you do not know the difference between talking slick TO someone versus talking ABOUT someone. ..someone, forgot who, even mentioned this on the radio once when they were asked why they didn't mention names. ..they were like "we men we talk straight to the dude through the radio. .he know we taking to him. ..we don't talk about him. ..that's some hoe sh!t"...paraphrasing but that was the main point
MooseMouthMthafuga
Veteran
Anyway you wanna rationalize, buddy.
Truth of the matter, we're on the net having circular arguments about 2nd-3rd tier diss record.
Y'all have fun in here....Laterz
I still can't believe @DoobieJRoach thinks that the Gucci/Jeezy beef is more well known then the Pac backstory discussed on Drop A Gem On EmAnyway you wanna rationalize, buddy.
Truth of the matter, we're on the net having circular arguments about 2nd-3rd tier diss record.
Y'all have fun in here....Laterz
Knicksman20
Superstar
That's what I try to tell these guys but they refuse to get it. These so called "subliminals" weren't so subliminal because the intended target knew it was about them. A lot of times the people listening to these songs knew who the target was back then. It's only now you have these young internet revisionists not knowing their hip hp history putting their spin on things they don't understand or like.
DJDONTNOBODYPAYME
- 8ball Investments™ CEO -
I still can't believe @DoobieJRoach thinks that the Gucci/Jeezy beef is more well known then the Pac backstory discussed on Drop A Gem On Em
I still don't understand why the Philadelphia Eagles ain't everybody's favorite team but that's just how some things work.