How is Jay-Z a better artist than Biggie when he ain't go no albums better than Biggie's albums?

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Reasonable Doubt and Blueprint are on Par with LAD and RTD as far as I’m concerned


Not even close. big was in everybody's car late 94 95, he had ny on lock. no jay z song from that era got the magnitude of big poppa, juicy, who shot ya or one more chance remix. not to mention he wrote all of lil kim first album.

blueprint lol. that album is great but mostly cause of the production. if you make a top 20 jay z songs, blueprint songs barely make it,(heart of the city and u don't know) thats telling about how that album was a cohesive work but got no real classics joints. Rtd and lad are way above in every category
 
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Jay-Z has had the GOAT career and it’s not debatable. Yes, BIG was the ultimate MC but sadly his life was cut short.
 

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FOH with this
No one told that nikka to go to LA and gloat over LA airwaves:mjlol:

He has himself and Diddy prolly to blame:yeshrug:

Just like pac has himself to blame for his

There was a bounty on Big’s head regardless of a damn freestyle :heh:
 

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At some point Biggie’s lack of music can’t be held up against someone who made more music across different eras with so much of every that had happened.

Biggie never got to the new millennium, never saw the towers fall, wasn’t here for Katrina, didn’t do a song with 50, never met Obama, and so much more

But Biggie is the best rapper who isn’t alive but if he was more prolific in life then a lot changes
 

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Jay does not even have two back to back classics.
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Having back to back classics doesnt mean anything other than it being a dumb arbitrary thing fans argue about

fact is Jay got atleast 2 classic albums,


thats telling about how that album was a cohesive work but got no real classics joints
:mjlol:What? those albums def have classic joints.Blueprint has some of the most famous rap quotes there is "Hov did that so hopefully you wouldnt have to go thru that"
 

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Having back to back classics doesnt mean anything other than it being a dumb arbitrary thing fans argue about

fact is Jay got atleast 2 classic albums,



:mjlol:What? those albums def have classic joints.Blueprint has some of the most famous rap quotes there is "Hov did that so hopefully you wouldnt have to go thru that"

I'm talking songs not quotes. Izzo ain't a hip hop classic song
 

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I think Biggie is the better artist all things considered. I see posters saying Biggie only has storytelling and his voice over Jay, but there is much more than that that makes Biggie a better artist. What makes Biggie a better storyteller? The images, the emotion, and the detail. He created these characters that became a part of Hip Hop in a sense from Dark Skinned Jermaine to Arizona Ron. He had people really wanting to know which NBA player he robbed and bedded the girlfriend. Ready To Die isn't just some hyperbolic gangsta tales, it's the journey through the mind of someone that has sunken so low in life that they want to end it all and actually embraced going to Hell. Yes, it sounds sick and twisted, but as a listener, even if you shook your head in disgust and disagreement at some of the lyrics and content, it still bumped. Then he came back with a double album that was still dark, but had a bit more polish.

Jay Z is a GOAT, but what he lacks in emotion and detail, he makes up for with wit. Not saying wit isn't powerful tool in his arsenal, Jay, as great as his albums are, never quite brought it all together like Big. Jay Z attempted a double album and even if you feel Life After Death is overrated, it's still better than Blueprint 2. Jay tried his hand at the whole jiggy sound and it yielded more filler than what can be found on either disc of Life After Death. Biggie's lines are still being quoted by other greats and used as hooks to songs.

That said, at this point, it would be crazy to still rank Biggie over Jay. Biggie was elite for 4-5 years. Jay's been elite for longer. We've seen him fall off and come back, fall of and come back time and again. So yeah, Jay ranks above Biggie even though I feel Biggie is more talented.
 
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