I got Jay over biggie cause his body of work is greater. Listening to Jay u listening to a future billionaire telling u how he's doing it, his mentality and how he views situations. Big was an all time great, his two albums are legendary, but Jay was able to grow and mature past 96/97 era.
How is Jay-Z a better artist than Biggie when he ain't go no albums better than Biggie's albums?
- Thread starter I love Latina women
- Start date
Animal House
Superstar
Just appreciate Big without tearing down the next man
Big only had a 3 year career very short so to accomplish what he did in them 3 years is great …
TheDarceKnight
Veteran
Super fair and even handed post
Ready to Die aint no 50x better than The Blueprint or Reasonable Doubt, stop.Not even closeLAD and R2D are 50x better than whatever album Camel has dropped
Kinguno
The Immortal
Yes but it’s been almost 30 years since he died. With all due respect three years could’ve been a trend or a lucky run at this point Jay-Z gave us lifestyle rap even to this day from bring it on to verses of watching his twins feed from the breast of their mother Beyonce. We got all of Jay’s life to this point similar to Jordan not only was he competing with his group he competed against other groups and eras and some of those people ain’t even alive. No more
In sports there’s this thing about an athlete that they die twice the first death is when they stop and the second after their heart stop. In hip hop nobody has really come back from that first death like when you die you might get a pop (Jada literally rapped about this) after the second and real death the energy this artists so called brought wasn’t really as impactful as they would’ve thought.
Jay has to be the greatest and the best because he wins on every metric or places high enough on them for everyone and the way we feel about ourselves cost Nas that shyt because you could argue we tried to give him that first death fast. Someone like LL Cool J who came before Jay and is around the same age as Jay is beneath him and you could argue LL beat Biggie in on the Flavor in your ear remix.
Some of the hottest rappers now wasn’t born when Jay dropped his first album. And the dude name still rang bells
FOH
Jay the fukkin
FOH
Jay the fukkin
African Peasant
Veteran
Nope. It's performance. Jay never achieved that.
Jay got one undisputed classic: RD.
Blueprint is a very good album. A classic? Maybe not.
revisionist history would be if i said that reasonable doubt was bigger than those albums.
all i did was state my opinion that reasonable doubt was better. thats not revising anything.
now when people on here actually get to revising stuff, i never see you on the frontlines.
a handful of idiors dapped your post too.
now this is revisionist.
where do yall get this nonsense from??
in '96/97 jay was a boss and biggie was a worker.
so how was jay supposedly biggie's "lil nikka??"
NOBODY said anything like this back in the day.
if jay-z fed off of anybody back then, it was foxy brown.....but of course, nobody is gonna prop up a female like that. certainly not on this board.
Awesome Wells
The Bobby Womack of Crack
TheDarceKnight
Veteran
This is a real simple equation. And for the record I think Big is the best emcee to pick up a mic.
Jay's best album may not be better than Big's best album. But...Jay has albums that are very close, and Jay's had decades of dope music. So Jay has more dope music overall, and that sounds unfair because it's a tragedy that Big was murdered, but also when it comes to a discography it just is what it is. Jay has more overall quality albums, features, etc.
Even though everything Big did in the few short years he was creating may have been stronger, at a certain point it just doesn't outweigh the consistency that Jay has brought to the table.
And trust me. All the time I wonder what Big could've accomplished as an artist. I don't think he would've fallen off, and I think he would've sounded amazing over music from the crop of 2000's producers that came in, etc. We lost a once in a lifetime talent.
Jay's best album may not be better than Big's best album. But...Jay has albums that are very close, and Jay's had decades of dope music. So Jay has more dope music overall, and that sounds unfair because it's a tragedy that Big was murdered, but also when it comes to a discography it just is what it is. Jay has more overall quality albums, features, etc.
Even though everything Big did in the few short years he was creating may have been stronger, at a certain point it just doesn't outweigh the consistency that Jay has brought to the table.
And trust me. All the time I wonder what Big could've accomplished as an artist. I don't think he would've fallen off, and I think he would've sounded amazing over music from the crop of 2000's producers that came in, etc. We lost a once in a lifetime talent.
TheDarceKnight
Veteran
This is one of the craziest takes I've ever seen on here. And I say this as a guy that will argue with anyone that Jay has the best catalogue in hip-hop.
Reasonable Doubt is debatable IMO. If you think RD is better than RTD or LAD, I wouldn't argue. I don't think it's better, but I've probably listened to it more than RTD or LAD, and I might actually enjoy it more.
Black Album, though? I don't think so. And I love it, and I think it's Jay's 3rd best album. The Black Album sounds more dated than Life After Death, and it was released 6-7 years later. Life After Death is a truly timeless album. I listened to it the other week and it sounds like it could've been released last year.
Piggie > Camelonly good Camel albums are blueprint 1 and vol 2
You really think Vol 2 is better than RD