How many of you guys have actually thought about leaving America?

[KOohbt]

Ghana or Nigeria for me. I want that dual citizenship

Maybe Angola

 

[Piffiztheanswer]

Yeah personally I've been looking at places in SOuth America and the Caribbean to move to.
Places down there are cheap, and you can live nice and happy with little problems.

In Fact I went to the DR, and was looking at coppin a condo there, and eventually retiring, close to the beach.
you can cop something down there real nice for like 50 G's.

But was also lookin at Nicaragua, Costa Rica, and peru as well. I have friends that have been to those places and loved it. Lts of Ex-pats down there.

I wanna check it out for my self one day

Peru has a great land or property ownership laws once you cop its yours no BS like in amerikkka dollar got strong again recently and this place is like miami in the 80s.... One big p*ssy waiting to get fukked lol

 

[DrBanneker]

I also know several Black retirees in Central America. They seem to concentrate in Costa Rica or Panama.

 

[DrBanneker]

www.blackexpat.com

Site hasn't updated recently but has some good stories and a spreadsheet to calculate costs of living abroad www.blackexpat.com/new/BlackExpat%20Travel%20Worksheet%20-%20v1.1.xls

 

[Mike Ock]

www.blackexpat.com

Site hasn't updated recently but has some good stories and a spreadsheet to calculate costs of living abroad www.blackexpat.com/new/BlackExpat%20Travel%20Worksheet%20-%20v1.1.xls

I've started seeing things about Americans retiring in foreign countries a few years ago. Me and my girl really enjoyed Cololmbia. I been reading up on Ecuador also. Right now I'd feel we'd wanna retire out there, but once we get a family going and then eventually our kids have kids and shyt. That might make it harder to want to leave the country.

 

[Maschine_Man]

I've spent good time in Europe, Brazil, Asia and here are my thoughts:

Europe - nice, more progressive people, and great social services but this ain't the 1950s where Blacks were openly welcome and admired (a la jazz musicians, James Baldwin, etc.) Economy is going to crap, hard to get a work visa if you are non-EU without a special skill and the ideas on immigrants and non-whites are hardening--witness the rise of the National Front in France, Swedish Democrats, Alternativ fur Deutschland, etc. People are economically and socially insecure and are not going to welcome a flood of Blacks, even if they aren't from developing countries. Once you get beyond a critical mass, the climate will change. I have little experience in the UK but I get the feeling sometimes, at least London, is on this Blacks are the 'bad minority' (compared to Asians or even Polish EU immigrants). Especially after the riots.

Asia - huge cultural barriers. 250k Africans live in Guangzhou but they have a different perspective than someone coming from the US. Yes, in places like China (though not Japan or Korea) you can live relatively large on less money but language is a huge barrier unless you stay in the expat friendly areas (which most foreigners do) and you (and your kids) will not integrate. Multicultural citizenship is alien in most countries and even in China, the minorities look Asian. I expect xenophobia to ramp up in China and other places too as the economy slows.

Brazil - well I admit if not for security issues this is one country I would love to live in but it is not cheap, despite being a developing country. As a Black American you will be able to integrate and move even with middle or sometimes upper class Whites but some of the whitewashing in their culture (where upwardly mobile Black people want to be called anything but Black--even White) is something I am not a fan of. Also business can be difficult to do down there though you can if you have a long term hustle. FYI, Black Americans were the only ethnic group globally the Brazilian government ever passed a law to prevent from coming:
In Search of the Afro-American "Eldorado": Attempts by North American Blacks to Enter Brazil in the 1920s on JSTOR

They didn't want their Blacks getting 'bad ideas' and seeing educated examples.

Ghana - liked it when I was there and you can live large on very little. Know some Black Americans who settled there and with moderate savings and setting up business locally they had great houses, housecleaners, sent their kids to the best private school and loved it. There is an organization of Black Americans there too. Most people here would live in the big cities like Accra, Kumasi, or maybe Sekondi-Takoradi. I almost moved there to start a business but personal issues in the US intervened.

South Africa was covered in the video documentary Blacks Without Borders. It seems many were successful there though you have the same security issues as Brazil and Whites still hold the economic power.

I think the Caribbean countries, Cuba (when it opens up) and eastern Costa Rica (where Blacks are actually the landowners and economic elite) may be good areas but I don't have first hand experience.


Personally I will stay here in fight for what my ancestors fought for though I strongly encourage you all, especially young people, to travel abroad and see the world. Some may like it better to settle other places. Not sure a mass migration would work anywhere though.

Excellent post. I wish I could dap it twice.

this thread needs more posts like this with real info for everyone and get ppl thinking...

 

[Phitz]

I don't know how y'all can pledge allegiance to the flag.. And that 'land of the free' bullshyt with the history of blacks in America?

Trust me y'all will see just how racist amd held back you've been when you live in a place like London

Yeah UK is just different. Of course you can openly marry yt chics(which is freedom for the lames), but economically you struggle, unless your ethnic group has a strong economy and business class then you can stand some. I found Brits(especially older ones) to be mean/rude as hell. They have no heart what so ever. I see why the Irish hate those mofos. I could better deal with yt Americans.

 

[Phitz]

My two years in wassist ass Europe were the best times of my life....i got a ss# and national id and ehhthang.
Now im almost 6 months returned and ready to go back. fukk outta here. I dont want none of yall to leave America. Stay put, nikkas

I heard someone else say this. They said when too many Americans move to one spot they ruin the whole vibe of the place. Forgot what country they were referring to though.

 

[Art Barr]

If I never had a daughter in 2004.
In 2003 before I learned she was on the way..i was staying in Montreal forever.
fukk the us, breh.

shyt is horrible here,...go to Canada and live like royalty and a celeb.
People stopping you on the street just to hear you say a hood greeting naturally to them.
Get to eat a people's home cause they love American black males and know you treated like shyt in America.
If jeb or trump win the presidency.
I am outta here this time.
Already started saving in January.


Art Barr

 

[Art Barr]

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Air-rubs are racist as shyt, they call us Gira Gira/Abeed/etc and all these Uncle Bilals wanna pretend like Islam wasn't forced on West Afrikans. Fukk those gutter middle east countries, Islam is just Arab/Persian supremacism.

I would never move to the land of our first enslavers and they are so shytty. they can not even treat women right to begin with.
How you can not treat a woman right,....sorry, not goin.

Art Barr

 

[jwonder]

Working them index funds and 401k to get to Belize or Colombia

 

[DrBanneker]

Excellent post. I wish I could dap it twice.

this thread needs more posts like this with real info for everyone and get ppl thinking...

Thanks bro.

 

[Black Cobain]

I would never move to the land of our first enslavers and they are so shytty they can not even treat women right to begin with.

Art Barr

My man! I was reading threads from months ago and saw you tagged, much respect

 

[The Prince of All Saiyans]

And I don't necessarily mean on that "Go back to Africa" tip...I mean move to a place like Canada or the UK.

I know it won't be good for your street cred, but you'd certainly be a lot happier.

Everyday I read on here about how bad everyone has it, White supremacy and racism and all other types of shyt that dominate the American landscape.

Now I'm not saying that shyt doens't happen in Canada or UK, but it isn't even CLOSE to the shyt that happens in America.


Any of y'all actually make the move or have really thought about it?

keep these chumps where they belong

 

[Maschine_Man]

Working them index funds and 401k to get to Belize or Colombia

I hear Ecuador is actually a really good spot to check out.
My homie from Medellin has been telling me about Colombia...that shyt sounds amazing. the turnaround that city had over the last 20-30 years has been quite remarkeable.