How many of you guys have actually thought about leaving America?

DrBanneker

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I've spent good time in Europe, Brazil, Asia and here are my thoughts:

Europe - nice, more progressive people, and great social services but this ain't the 1950s where Blacks were openly welcome and admired (a la jazz musicians, James Baldwin, etc.) Economy is going to crap, hard to get a work visa if you are non-EU without a special skill and the ideas on immigrants and non-whites are hardening--witness the rise of the National Front in France, Swedish Democrats, Alternativ fur Deutschland, etc. People are economically and socially insecure and are not going to welcome a flood of Blacks, even if they aren't from developing countries. Once you get beyond a critical mass, the climate will change. I have little experience in the UK but I get the feeling sometimes, at least London, is on this Blacks are the 'bad minority' (compared to Asians or even Polish EU immigrants). Especially after the riots.

Asia - huge cultural barriers. 250k Africans live in Guangzhou but they have a different perspective than someone coming from the US. Yes, in places like China (though not Japan or Korea) you can live relatively large on less money but language is a huge barrier unless you stay in the expat friendly areas (which most foreigners do) and you (and your kids) will not integrate. Multicultural citizenship is alien in most countries and even in China, the minorities look Asian. I expect xenophobia to ramp up in China and other places too as the economy slows.

Brazil - well I admit if not for security issues this is one country I would love to live in but it is not cheap, despite being a developing country. As a Black American you will be able to integrate and move even with middle or sometimes upper class Whites but some of the whitewashing in their culture (where upwardly mobile Black people want to be called anything but Black--even White) is something I am not a fan of. Also business can be difficult to do down there though you can if you have a long term hustle. FYI, Black Americans were the only ethnic group globally the Brazilian government ever passed a law to prevent from coming:
In Search of the Afro-American "Eldorado": Attempts by North American Blacks to Enter Brazil in the 1920s on JSTOR

They didn't want their Blacks getting 'bad ideas' and seeing educated examples.

Ghana - liked it when I was there and you can live large on very little. Know some Black Americans who settled there and with moderate savings and setting up business locally they had great houses, housecleaners, sent their kids to the best private school and loved it. There is an organization of Black Americans there too. Most people here would live in the big cities like Accra, Kumasi, or maybe Sekondi-Takoradi. I almost moved there to start a business but personal issues in the US intervened.

South Africa was covered in the video documentary Blacks Without Borders. It seems many were successful there though you have the same security issues as Brazil and Whites still hold the economic power.

I think the Caribbean countries, Cuba (when it opens up) and eastern Costa Rica (where Blacks are actually the landowners and economic elite) may be good areas but I don't have first hand experience.


Personally I will stay here in fight for what my ancestors fought for though I strongly encourage you all, especially young people, to travel abroad and see the world. Some may like it better to settle other places. Not sure a mass migration would work anywhere though.
 

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after college, i was going to teach english abroad in france and then stay afterwards. easy enough. instead, i moved to new orleans :francis:
 

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Alternate thread title: move somewhere where there are fewer Black people to get better treatment but don't all move to the same place because the only reason Black people receive better treatment in places where there aren't many Black people is because there aren't many Black people.

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Just move to a better place in AMERICA. (easier said than done I know)

Take it from me. I'm living in Spain right now. And although I could live here long-term, America is still a better country on a lot of levels.

I think Americans take for granted all the conveniences that come with living there. I know the government is ass backwards but shyt, most governments are.
 
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