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theworldismine13

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If you understood my point, then you wouldn't be arguing a non-point so vociferously. Hip-hop is not one genre. If you don't care for the 'guns, drugs, hoes on deck/flossin'-genres of hip-hop, there are other genres.

what?

hip hop/rap music is one genre, i dont think you are using the word genre properly, im not missing your point, i dont agree with your point

and i was explaining that before there was much more balance to the genre known as rap music and that was the overall point of the article, that hip hop has lost its balance, nothing you have posted and no misuse of the word genre contradicts the assertion that hip hop overall has lost its balance
 

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If that were the case, then there would be no difference between Wu-Tang and A Tribe Called Quest, Big Pun and Heavy D, or, Jay-Z and Macklemore.​

yeah all those groups are in this same genre, i dont think you understand what the word genre means but basically any music that involves rhyming over a beat falls under the genre of rap/hip hop, of course there are different styles of rap but its all the same genre

and of course this is a free country and you are entitled to use the word genre anyway you want, but the way you are using it is not the normal way its used

and i understand your point, you are trying to say that there are different styles of rap music and that the money, drug bytches is just one style, and according to you different styles means different genres

i would use the word style, you use the word genre, but i get your point, im not missing your point

the point of the article is that the money, hoe, drugs style/genre has overwhelmed everything else and that the music has lost its balance, posting videos of blu and lacrea (isnt he the christian rapper) doesnt change the fact that hip hop overall has lost its balance
 

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No hip-hop head would say that Wu and ATCQ were the same genre.​

the word genre is not used in hip hop, its used mostly in billboard and other commercial entities to classify different types of music


and again i think you are confusing the word genre with style, Wu and tribe have different styles, that is what a hip hop head would say

a real hiphop head could care less what genre Wu and ATCQ fall into
 

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That's because there are different types of hip-hop music, AKA, genres.

http://thesaurus.com/browse/genre

its a free country, you can use the word genre anyway you want, but i would use there are different styles of rap, i wouldnt say there are different genres

but im not missing your point, i completely understand that you think there are different genres of hip hop, and that the ho, drugs etc is just one genre and hip hop has many genres

nobody is missing your point

but what we are saying (using your language) is that one genre of hip hop has overwhelmed all the other genres, but again we are not missing your point, we just dont think agree with your point that blu and lacrea is a rebuttal
 

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theworldismine13 said:
its a free country, you can use the word genre anyway you want, but i would use there are different styles of rap, i wouldnt say there are different genres

There ARE different genres of hip-hop and until you understand this fact, you'll continue to miss the point.​
 

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yeah all those groups are in this same genre, i dont think you understand what the word genre means but basically any music that involves rhyming over a beat falls under the genre of rap/hip hop, of course there are different styles of rap but its all the same genre

and of course this is a free country and you are entitled to use the word genre anyway you want, but the way you are using it is not the normal way its used

and i understand your point, you are trying to say that there are different styles of rap music and that the money, drug bytches is just one style, and according to you different styles means different genres

i would use the word style, you use the word genre, but i get your point, im not missing your point

the point of the article is that the money, hoe, drugs style/genre has overwhelmed everything else and that the music has lost its balance, posting videos of blu and lacrea (isnt he the christian rapper) doesnt change the fact that hip hop overall has lost its balance
Ive heard heard modern rock groups rhyme over a beat.in some of their songs.
 

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Hip hop has evolved into something other than what I find amusing.
I've given this topic a lot of thought over the years and here is why I believe this debate is always fruitless.

2 Types of people listened to hip hop during its "Golden Age".
People who listened for the culture.
People who listened for the sounds.

People who listened for the culture find today's hip hop to be a b*stardization of a form of communication that gave voice to a portion of the population without one. Hip Hop was more than music it was an element of a culture. Hip hop had a message.

People who listened for the sound valued the music because they liked the way it sounded or that they could dance to it. It had a sound.

You could do both things by the way.

Today the first group of people find no value in the popular form of hip hop, in fact it's offensive.
but
production value is usually ok enough for group 2 to not give to much of a fuk.

When people from group1 discuss hip hop with people from group 2 they seldom see eye to eye.

Things you can't deny though....
Hip hop has been commercialized, streamlined and formulized to the point where you're not really listening to art so much as you're listening to a product. Hoes? Check. Expensive cars? Check. Tons of forced radio play? Check. Decent production? Check. You have yourself a hot track now.
:manny: it is what it is.
 
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