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How the iPhone is so popular is beyond me...
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It's not my problem that you're stuck on stupid & can't ascertain my comments which were clear as day. And If you were really as knowledgeable as you are trying to pretend, you would've already known about the major differences between Apple's NAND's vs Android's NAND's when it was pointed out in my prior statement & wouldn't have tried to challenge it. So all this posturing & backtracking just continues to prove you know very little.
As i said, Apple has ALWAYS had faster write speeds, even BEFORE they switch to the new NAND controller. Pointing out that Apple has a "special nand drive" as the reason for the performance disparity between the types of devices is asinine
Exactly! Apple doesn't produce ANY of it's OWN hardware as you previously claimed in your quote below..
Furthermore Apple only partially designs their processors as the rest of the design & engineering is is done in conjunction with the specific chip fabricator Apple contracts unlike Samsung who does all their design, engineering & manufacturing for it's Exynos chips completely in house.
Your original statement was that Apple does not design their own chips, which is false. The claim that Samsung designs a larger percentage of their Exynos chip than Apple with their A series chips has not been backed up with facts.
Its often that the loudest person is the wrong one. The fact that you see the need to post colorful text to push your point is hilarious
NO WHERE in that link does it make the relationship with using OLED vs LCD as using up more CPU cycles. Can you read? If so, your comprehension is deplorable...or you're being intentionally disingenuous
This dumbass looked up a random article about some shyt he knows NOTHING aboutIs that so?
The L's keep piling up
A Java Programmer's Introduction to Objective-C: Memory Management
"Developers continue to debate the question of memory management solutions. Which is best? Although Objective-C's retain/release runs smoother and faster than Java's garbage collection, it places a much larger burden on the developer and introduces a much larger risk of memory leaks."
"Java Garbage Collection
Java employs an automatic garbage collection system to manage memory inside the virtual machine. This garbage collection is handled via reference counting. Each instance/object inside of the virtual machine has a reference count. When that reference count reaches zero, the object is "garbage," and should be removed and its memory released.
As a Java application runs, the garbage collector runs in the background on its own thread. Periodically throughout the life of the Java application, the collector will look through all of the objects and see if any of them have a reference count of zero. It is at this point that the objects are removed from the virtual machine and their memory is released.
Note that this memory release does not occur as soon as the object loses all its references—it occurs at some future point. This can cause some issues with Java applications because garbage collection can be heavy on CPU consumption and cause stalls in an application."
A Java Programmer's Introduction to Objective-C: Memory Management | Java Garbage Collection | Peachpit
Look breh, if you manage your objects and manually dump the object references after the variable is no longer being used, you avoid the problem all together. The above problem comes into play when you let the virtual machine handle garbage collection automatically, which can be problematic as you do not know when it will choose to perform the dump. If youve gone thru the process of bug squashing, it will be clear when garbage collection happens during usage of the app. You then put in manual reference deletions at the point of error.
As i say, go create a rudimentary application before you even speak on this shyt, which you know nothing about.
Name a downloaded app that RUNS in the background without user interaction..and im not talking simple push notifications.But, but, but...........
The alleged "bug" you're mentioning is based on Android Lollipop & does not apply to some apps restarting again even after being disabled in older Android platforms.
This is only because Samsung has recently started to implement a "less" bloatware policy on their newer locked carrier smartphones starting with the Galaxy S7 lineup which helps assist with the overall performance. To further prove my point:
Pre-installed apps: Samsung Galaxy S6 edge+ (G928T)
The following apps are pre-installed on the device:
58 Total Pre Installed Apps
- Voice Search
- Gmail
- Drive
- Play Music
- Play Movies & TV
- Hangouts
- Photos
- Google Settings
- Wallet
- Microsoft
- Word
- Excel
- PowerPoint
- OneNote
- OneDrive
- Skype
- Samsung
- Milk
- My Files
- Samsung Gear
- Voice Recorder
- Social
- Messenger
- T-Mobile
- App Source
- T-Mobile My Account
- Device Unlock
- Mobile HotSpot
- T-Mobile Name ID
- T-Mobile TV
- Visual Voicemail
- Amazon
- Calculator
- Calendar
- Camera
- Chrome
- Clock
- Contacts
- Galaxy Apps
- Gallery
- Internet
- Lookout Security
- Maps
- Memo
- Messages
- Music
- Phone
- Play Store
- S Health
- S Voice
- Samsung Pay
- Samsung+
- Settings
- SideSync
- Smart Manager
- Video
- YouTube
https://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-23289
Pre-installed apps: Samsung Galaxy S7 edge (G935T)
The following apps are pre-installed on the device:
Amazon Shopping
Android Pay
Calendar
Contacts
Drive
Galaxy Apps
Gallery
Gmail
Google Chrome
Google Maps
Google Play Books
Google Play Magazines
Google Play Movies & TV
Google Play Music
Google Search
Google+
Hangouts
Lookout
Memo
Mobile Money
My files
Phone
Photos
S Health
S Voice
Samsung Gear
Samsung Milk Music
Samsung Pay
Samsung+
Smart Manager
Smart Remote
Smart Switch
T-Mobile Device Unlock
T-Mobile Mobile Hotspot
T-Mobile My Account
T-Mobile Name ID
T-Mobile Visual Voicemail
T-MobileTV
YouTube
40 Pre-Installed Apps Total
Pre-installed apps: Samsung Galaxy S7 edge (G935T) | T-Mobile Support
Wrong! Some apps do run in the background on the iPhone now thanks to Apple's recent improvements to multitasking on it's later iterations of iOS.
It looks as if you're the one who needs the education, because based on our exchange, you're a technological dunce. And the "tech forum' links are only provided to bolster my comments with actual, legitimate facts & not erroneous, incomplete, skimpy statements as you've presented throughout this entire exchange.
nikka im an IT GOD..I work live and breathe this shyt..meanwhile you rely on Google searches for pretty much all your knowledge
...fukk outta hereDebating with you is a waste of time as you are unwilling to admit that there's shyt you dont know
N*ggerFa*ot
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if you don't have a iphone in my school everyone thinks your broke, they think you have a trash camera and everyone will make fun of you.What does this mean?
What a fukking loser. Breh really bought an iPhone so he doesn't get bullied
Time to get your priorities straight. Sounds like you're in middle school or high school. Don't worry, it gets better(it actually doesn't, as life sucks and with each passing year, you'll realize it more and more, but no adult in the real world cares if you have an iPhone or android. It's a fukking phone for god's sake
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Golayitdown
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As i said, Apple has ALWAYS had faster write speeds, even BEFORE they switch to the new NAND controller. Pointing out that Apple has a "special nand drive" as the reason for the performance disparity between the types of devices is asinine
Your original statement was that Apple does not design their own chips, which is false. The claim that Samsung designs a larger percentage of their Exynos chip than Apple with their A series chips has not been backed up with facts.
Its often that the loudest person is the wrong one. The fact that you see the need to post colorful text to push your point is hilarious
NO WHERE in that link does it make the relationship with using OLED vs LCD as using up more CPU cycles. Can you read? If so, your comprehension is deplorable...or you're being intentionally disingenuous
This dumbass looked up a random article about some shyt he knows NOTHING about
Look breh, if you manage your objects and manually dump the object references after the variable is no longer being used, you avoid the problem all together. The above problem comes into play when you let the virtual machine handle garbage collection automatically, which can be problematic as you do not know when it will choose to perform the dump. If youve gone thru the process of bug squashing, it will be clear when garbage collection happens during usage of the app. You then put in manual reference deletions at the point of error.
As i say, go create a rudimentary application before you even speak on this shyt, which you know nothing about.
nikka im an IT GOD..I work live and breathe this shyt..meanwhile you rely on Google searches for pretty much all your knowledge
Debating with you is a waste of time as you are unwilling to admit that there's shyt you dont know
This dude Googled a Java article
No shyt sherlock!
Past/older iPhone model didn't use the slower eMMC NAND storage like most Android phones which still gave earlier iPhones the advantage over Android phones in regards to faster write speed .
However, this has nothing to do with Apple's recent state of the art NAND controller for the newer, current iPhone models (6s/6s Plus/SE) which is what we've been discussing.
The only thing "asinine" is your denials because you've been proven wrong time & time again & look like a complete clown.
Your keep trying to stall ,skirt & backpedal around the facts by being disingenuous so lets do this again:
A secret iPhone 6s component no other phone has is responsible for huge speed gains
Apple has done it again this year. The new iPhone mops the floor with the competition in performance tests, and the new handset can match the Retina MacBook in benchmarks. The increased performance of the iPhone 6s isn’t unexpected, considering that previous iPhones have all held their own against more powerful Android competitors.
How did Apple do it this year? The company has a faster, more efficient A9 chip, 2GB of new LPDDR4 RAM, and a brand new GPU that’s miles ahead of the competition. But there’s also a secret iPhone component responsible for the new iPhone’s performance gains that nobody is really talking about, and it’s one that the competition doesn’t even have.
While it’s much easier to debate whether 1GB of 2GB of RAM will suffice for next year’s iPhone over coffee, the majority of fans will probably ignore something called a custom NAND controller for the iPhone. That particular component happens to handle storage memory read and write speeds, and Apple – unsurprisingly – designed its own for the iPhone 6s.
In fact, as AnandTech points out, not only did Apple design it, but it’s exactly the same component that’s found on MacBooks. That essentially means Apple is ready to offer MacBook SSD-grade speeds on the iPhone 6s series.
“Overall, NAND performance is impressive, especially in sequential cases,” the tech site wrote in its extremely detailed analysis of the iPhone 6s’ storage performance. “Apple has integrated a mobile storage solution that I haven’t seen in any other device yet, and the results suggest that they’re ahead of just about every other OEM in the industry here by a significant amount.”
Thanks to this overlooked Apple component, the new iPhones can read and write data faster than most competitors, making this chip responsible for the handset’s extra speed. Of course, the improved CPU, GPU and extra RAM also help, and will probably take all the credit for the remarkable speed bump the iPhone 6s got.
A secret iPhone 6s component no other phone has is responsible for huge speed gains
But of course with your worldly tech "expertise" you know more about the NAND drive specifics than the experts at BGR & Anandtech, right?
Even an idiot with a little bit of tech savvy understands that write speed affects OS performance!
Again, Incorrect! Apple does not fully design it's own chips, as they are partially designed by Apple & engineered along with the chip manufacturers Apple contracts out to actually produce relabeled Apple processors.
Are you really this dumb?
Samsung is the second largest chip producer overall (behind Intel) in the world! And Samsung with it's well known expertise in the industry & manufacturing capabilities doesn't need to partner or collaborate with other companies for their own chip design as Apple does.The colored text is highlighted as emphasis for tech dummies like yourself!
The problem with reading is obviously yours as the link I provided plainly breaks down the differences between OLED & LCD screens & their effects on the CPU. If you're too stupid to decipher the information (which you clearly are) then it's not my fault.
Look breh, all this garbage bullshyt you wasted your time writing still does not change the fact that your were wrong again. Objective-C on Apple iOS runs smoother and faster than Java on Android. Point Blank. All your long winded & commonly known explanations of how the two work differently to make yourself seem smarter than you really are doesn't change this fact.
So are you claiming that no apps run in the background now on newer iPhones with the updated iOS for mutitasking?
Simple Yes or no answer nikka?
You're not a "IT GOD", you're a IT PEON who's tech knowledge regarding smart phones is comical at best! Not to mention you've already admitted numerous times that your comments were wrong after I corrected your misguided statements.
Furthermore, if you "work live and breathe this shyt" then I feel sorry for your employer, because your intellect on the subject matter is mediocre.
The TRUTH is the TRUTH, no matter the source! Providing accurate, factual links after adding my own knowledgeable insight is a must for counterfeit tech "experts" like yourself, so that don't mislead with half ass, incomplete information like you've been spewing & can't deflect or dodge the facts as you've done this entire debate.[/QUOTE]
This dude Googled a Java article
Which is also a "article" based on only facts, specifically posted for idiots such as yourself that can't be invalidated or eliminated with a circle jerk of misinformation & theoretical bullshyt.
Sitting on the sidelines & making slick remarks because you tapped out isn't going to help you one bit.
Golayitdown
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Which is also a "article" based on only facts, specifically posted for idiots such as yourself that can't be invalidated or eliminated with a circle jerk of misinformation & theoretical bullshyt.
Sitting on the sidelines & making slick remarks because you tapped out isn't going to help you one bit.
The problem isn't only your googling but your obvious misunderstanding of what the articles say. Every time you post, it makes it painfully clear that you are neither a software developer nor technically inclined enough to understand the "facts" within the articles you keep posting. It's the reason you make assertions then post full articles which do not support your original point.
The reason I "tapped" is because your Trump-esque debating style is rooted moreso in trolling than any kind of logic
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Pointless breh.The problem isn't only your googling but your obvious misunderstanding of what the articles say. Every time you post, it makes it painfully clear that you are neither a software developer nor technically inclined enough to understand the "facts" within the articles you keep posting. It's the reason you make assertions then post full articles which do not support your original point.
The reason I "tapped" is because your troll Trump-esque debating style is rooted moreso in trolling than any kind of logic
but "Trump-esque" = perfect description.
DStyles
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I only have an iPhone due to my iTunes music library but other than that they get the 
Not a fan of their OS and overpriced Computers. With that amount I can get a good gaming pc and@ their 5k monitor when there barely is any 4k media atm.
I would still buy a Mac just to say I have one
Not a fan of their OS and overpriced Computers. With that amount I can get a good gaming pc and
@ their 5k monitor when there barely is any 4k media atm.I would still buy a Mac just to say I have one
The problem isn't only your googling but your obvious misunderstanding of what the articles say. Every time you post, it makes it painfully clear that you are neither a software developer nor technically inclined enough to understand the "facts" within the articles you keep posting. It's the reason you make assertions then post full articles which do not support your original point.
The reason I "tapped" is because your Trump-esque debating style is rooted moreso in trolling than any kind of logic
The reason ya'll "tapped" & are so salty now is because it became apparent you were both simply out of your league! Not only were any of your comments provided with substantial. genuine facts, you also didn't have any real legitimate rebuttals to refute my remarks which concisely proved or validated anything you stated.
At the end of the day, supposition, conjecture & filibustering with nonsensical rants attempting to make yourself seem self tech savvy still doesn't replace or substitute the truth.
It must be a learning curve thing or something but using an iPhone is fukking frustrating to me. I don't really get the easier to use claims. Never have. It just feels limiting.
My mother has a 6 plus and I kinda dread when she has problems with it.
I wouldn't mind using it for Snapchat, though. Or any of the other apps that are better on ios because developers cater to them.
My mother has a 6 plus and I kinda dread when she has problems with it.
I wouldn't mind using it for Snapchat, though. Or any of the other apps that are better on ios because developers cater to them.
Golayitdown
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And copying and pasting articles doesn't make you look like you know what you're talking aboutThe reason ya'll "tapped" & are so salty now is because it became apparent you were both simply out of your league! Not only were any of your comments provided with substantial. genuine facts, you also didn't have any real legitimate rebuttals to refute my remarks which concisely proved or validated anything you stated.
At the end of the day, supposition, conjecture & filibustering with nonsensical rants attempting to make yourself seem self tech savvy still doesn't replace or substitute the truth.