How those Mcnabb years looking now Eagles Fans......

[Rapmastermind]

Mcnabb >>>> Vick


Past, present, future

Mcnabb >>>>>>> Every Eagles QB that replaced him and was hyped up to be better than him.

 

[Rapmastermind]

If it's unrelated then why was it brought up in a thread about mcnabb?

Its related cuz it was brought up in support of this shytty notion that what mcnabb did was par for the course...which you co-signed

Man it's no point in debating. Certain people will find any excuse to not give Donovan any props. Peyton and Brady played in garbage Divisions their whole time but it only counts against Mcnabb right? Like I said certain people will never give Donovan his due but it's OK. Eagles fans like me see where we are now and where we were then. I'm not going to have anything to watch in January. That's what a Donovan-less Eagles looks like.

 

[phillycavsfan]

Mcnabb >>>>>>> Every Eagles QB that replaced him and was hyped up to be better than him.

You butthurt McNabb stans are almost as bad as his detractors now.

No one was saying, when it was all said and done, that Vick (or Kolb) would have better Eagle careers than McNabb. You have to be deluded to think this.

What people did believe was this.

26 year old Kolb>>>>34 year old McNabb
30 year old Vick>>>>34 year old McNabb

Of course, they were wrong about the first one. But Reid got the second one right since Vick ended up 2nd in MVP voting in the 2010 season, and McNabb ended up cut after the 2010 season.

Question for the McNabb stans: if McNabb is the Eagles QB for the 2012 season, how many games would the Eagles have won? I'll leave it at this after this question.

 

[Michael SwagTree]

Black Excellence

Eagles fan have nick foles to look forward too now

 

[Jax]

Silly post. They never built around McNabb..and if they were going to do ball control then Reid wasn't the right coach for that. 9ers had an elite defense and ran the ball a lot. The Ravens when they won the Super Bowl did the same thing. If you don't want to build your O and just have your D win games for you then that's on the Coach. Eagles were not a running team.

LOL @ having an elite defense. You need to score points!

You obviously don't get it
We had an elite defense, what else we had? That flabby Mcnabb wasn't wanted from the start, fukk his egotistical self. we could've made it.

 

[FTBS]

You butthurt McNabb stans are almost as bad as his detractors now.

No one was saying, when it was all said and done, that Vick (or Kolb) would have better Eagle careers than McNabb. You have to be deluded to think this.

What people did believe was this.

26 year old Kolb>>>>34 year old McNabb
30 year old Vick>>>>34 year old McNabb

Of course, they were wrong about the first one. But Reid got the second one right since Vick ended up 2nd in MVP voting in the 2010 season, and McNabb ended up cut after the 2010 season.

Question for the McNabb stans: if McNabb is the Eagles QB for the 2012 season, how many games would the Eagles have won? I'll leave it at this after this question.

See this is what leads me to questioned to genuineness. If Reid got it so right why did they suffer the same fate that they suffered the year before with McNabb and then proceed to fall off a cliff? nikkas acting like they didn't follow a 11-5, first round exit season with a 10-6, first round exit season. Or as if the last two seasons haven't been turnover filled disasters from the QB position. One thing you can't say about McNabb is that he turned the ball over, especially in the redzone.

No way of telling what McNabb would have done this year because the shyt was pretty disasterous all the way around. However I am pretty sure he could of at the very least matched what he did in 09 in 10 and they likely make the playoffs in 2011 with McNabb staying healthy and making fewer mistakes while surrounded by the best weapons (as a whole) of his career.

 

[PHamm]

People love to bring up Garcia. 1st there is no Playoff run without Mcnabb winning those 5 games in 2006 before he was hurt for the year. 2nd Reid changed up the offense to more balanced attack, something he NEVER did for Mcnabb. They were running like crazy. Next Garcia couldn't even get out of the 2nd round. Left Philly and basically did nothing the rest of his career.

Jeff Garica played 6 Playoff games in his 16 year career in the NFL. He went 2-6, losing record. He was never at anyone point in his career better than Mcnabb. Vick proved he wasn't better than Mcnabb either. Now with Andy gone we can stop the hate and keep it real. Mcnabb should of NEVER been traded and the Eagles are paying for it now heavily. Garcia had one run and Eagles love to bring that up when Mcnabb had 7 runs to the Playoffs and won 9 Games as the Quarterback.

2006 was also probably Brian Westbrook's best year. He had WAY more to do with the playoffs that year than Jeff Garcia.

 

[phillycavsfan]

2006 was also probably Brian Westbrook's best year. He had WAY more to do with the playoffs that year than Jeff Garcia.

Westbrook was the Eagles' best offensive player from 2006-08.

 

[Rapmastermind]

END OF AN ERA GUYS. SAD:

 

[PHamm]

Westbrook was the Eagles' best offensive player from 2006-08.

without question

 

[MAKAVELI25]

END OF AN ERA GUYS. SAD:

 

[Absolut da poet ®]

nikkaz can speculate, hoot, holler, "what if" and make goofy smilies all day....in the grand scheme of things he did NOT win it all. The difference between McNabb, Brady and P. Manning is that they WON, weak division or not.

Peyton received TONS of criticism and doubt before he actually WON something and could call himself a champion. Prior to that he was a "statistics" and "records" guy which really mean nothing other than small personal victories. And It has nothing to do with being a "black QB"--if you don't win, you aren't respected and you aren't remembered. Bottomline. Don't believe it--go ask Jim kelly.

And from my recollection, EVERYONE in Philly supported McNabb for years and often critisized the front office for not putting the necessary weapons around him. The Eagles did not win with Mcnabb for a number of reasons; some of it was accredited to his lack of supportive staff, other parts of it were related to bad play calling, and the lack game adjustment on both ends by Reid, and others were due to poor decision making by Donovan in crunch time situations. I don't remember anyone really just dumping it ALL on his shoulders...just about every analyst,commentator and fan spread the blame where it belonged.

The OP is creating an issue that was never really there--the fact of the matter is, Donovan NEVER received all of the blame. Criticism? Absolutely, but no one blamed the entire team's problems on him.


Now I, myself was done with him around 2007. At that time he was still a quality QB, but whatever the Eagles were doing with him, just was not working for their system specifically in terms of putting the finishing touches on things.

If you're old enough to remember his playing style back then, he was a VERY different QB by comparison from 2000-2004 compared to 2006-2010. In his earliest NFC championship years, he was much more dominiant and unpredictable to defenses with his runand pass game.

After his injury though, IMO it became painfully and glaringly obvious that he just did not have "it" especially when Jeff Garcia stepped in 2006. In that one season, Garcia really just drew a sharp contrast in their leadership and play making ability and in the accuracy of his passing...heck if anyone remembers that season, Garcia would have taken them to the SB IF the defense hadn't of given up those last first downs to the Saints...where if McNabb had of finished that season, they wouldn't have even made the playoffs...anyway...

His LEGACY is there...no question about it, but it was time to move on. No one really expected the Eagles to repeat what they did in his earliest years, and it was painfully obvious that he was not going to close things out with SB. It is what it is...I was happy to see him go and give it a run somewhere else, but the Eagles needed new life and opportunities...He himself needs to get over it...it's only been about 3 years since he's been gone. If they win one SB in the next 10 years, he'll have to eat some of what he said. IMO...he is only hurting himself, pissing and moaning like Iverson...thinking he is owed something. The cat needs to sit down and accept that his era is OVER.

He needs to relax and allow people to absorb and reflect on the last 10 years with him. Heck, if you want to be REAL about it, nikkaz didn't respect Randall when he left either. It took another ANOTHER 10 years or so with a NEW lense to look back on it with fond memories and respect what he accomplished in those days, myself included.

This is one of the realest things I've ever read on the internet

I always speak the truth.

 

[Po pimp]

I'll always remember McNabb beating the Packers on 4th and 28.

 

[Rapmastermind]

I'll always remember McNabb beating the Packers on 4th and 28.

It was actually "4th and 26" and it's a Classic Play. Donovan had his way with Brett in there head to heads:




4th and 26 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[FTBS]

It was actually "4th and 26" and it's a Classic Play. Donovan had his way with Brett in there head to heads:


Philadelphia Eagles - YouTube

4th and 26 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

That game was one of the greatest individual performances that I have ever seen by a QB. He had 200 yds passing and 100 yds rushing and they still frankly should have lost that game. Just goes to show what he had to do for them win. 4th and 26 was on of the most moments of all-time. Of course Brett made it perfect with the big pick.