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majority of this list is hard cap or a nothing burger that does not help us :laff:

1. Celebrating your independence does nothing for us
2. Offering Citizenship without land is a nothing nurget
3. Legit
4. Is a lie.
5. Inspired us to push harder for civil rights when we were being oppressed for 300+ years? This is silly
6. X notoriously did not get support at that conference he said it himself
7. Indigenous Liberians sabotaged us.
8. Year Of Return, not paid for, not housed, is a tourist attraction to get money, no free land
9. Gambia’s festival is inspired by one of us and is about raising money for locals
10. Land opportunities is not free land
11. Thanking us for doing something is nice but also doesn’t help us in anyway
12. Those Pan Africanist conferences were started by Black Americans
13. Is legit
14. Is another lie, stop taking credit for our art
15. not direct help for us, that’s global* not for us
16. another tourist attraction
17. another tourist attraction
18. more cap
19. once again we had community before any “inspiration” from africa
20. Tourist attraction



Funny part about both our list. Ours is about actual change and investment from ONE ethnic group.

Even a prompt that included the entirety of Africa couldn’t come up with actual things to match the contributions of our one ethnic group and that is incredibly sad and shows how Africa has failed us.

Notice no money given. No gold. No help with infrastructure. Just hollow gestures.


NASTY!
Each and every one of those requires financial investment and has actual political standing behind it. But you're a white supremacist so of course you'd take that stance.
 

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Each and every one of those requires financial investment and has actual political standing behind it. But you're a white supremacist so of course you'd take that stance.
Financial investment for return for them. AKA siphoning funds from Black Americans

What did they build FOR us? What money did they send US?

Everything you listed was something to attract black americans to
come and spend money

Much like the year of the return for Ghana

that event generated 3 Billion dollars off of us.

How much of that helped us? Where is the scholarship for us to go to school paid for by the motherland?

stop playing in my face man
 
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I don’t consider Africans black. so that’s not what i said at all. They aren’t black, they are africans.
I think people take this as some sort of disrespect or erasure of history but it truly isn't. All segmentation over goods, resources, linage goes

Self -> Family -> tribe -> race -> nation

Be it ados, fba, or just "black" (what I say), that is our tribe. It is the black people who built this nation. That isn't saying we are or aren't anything....it's acknowledging our tribe our people our history...like all Africans do. Tell an igbo he can't say he's igbo because it is alienating other Africans...madness.

I've never claimed the titles of FBA or ados, I just say I'm black, but the principal is quite sound.

Edit: I have the person you were replying to on ignore so my reply is just in relation to your comment.
 

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I think people take this as some sort of disrespect or erasure of history but it truly isn't. All segmentation over goods, resources, linage goes

Self -> Family -> tribe -> race -> nation

Be it ados, fba, or just "black" (what I say), that is our tribe. It is the black people who built this nation. That isn't saying we are or aren't anything....it's acknowledging our tribe our people our history...like all Africans do. Tell an igbo he can't say he's igbo because it is alienating other Africans..madness.

I've never claimed the titles of FBA or ados, I just say I'm black, but the principal is quite sound.
It’s common sense. I’m quite fond of plenty of Africans and Caribbeans. That doesn’t make them us though. Or “brothers”.

Like I said they made themselves at home with Black American Culture and accomplishments belonging to the Black race* and not the Black ethnic group.

And i’m sure it’s uncomfortable seeing it being taken back, but here we are.
 

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In all seriousness. I have love for the continent and our cousins in the caribbean.

Im never rooting for yall to fail.

I just know it’s time we put the focus on us.

I’m raising my son like this now. He knows his ethnicity, his culture, his roots in america from both sides, his flag, and i can see a twinkle in his eyes i didn’t get being forced into pan africanism by my parents

im very excited for the next gen of black americans
 

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what does this have to do with what i said? it must apply to you since you’re triggered :mjlol:
Playing stupid doesn't change the fact what I said is true.

I didn’t say better than everyone else. I said better than Africans
The jeulzing continues. I asked a specific question and you refused to answer it.

Financial investment for return for them. AKA siphoning funds from Black Americans

What did they build FOR us? What money did they send US?

Everything you listed was something to attract black americans to
come and spend money

Much like the year of the return for Ghana

that event generated 3 Billion dollars off of us.

How much of that helped us? Where is the scholarship for us to go to school paid for by the motherland?

stop playing in my face man

You're the one playing in my face. You have an obvious bias and hand-wave away anything done by any African.
 

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I didn’t say better than everyone else. I said better than Africans
I applaud your patience but sometimes you just gotta just hit these Fleers with hard facts black and white


If Black America was a country in Africa they would be the most prosperous nation in Africa by almost every single metric with:

  • A GDP PPP of $1.5 Trillion (#1) followed by Egypt ($1.12 Trillion), Nigeria ($ 1.01 Trillion), South Africa ($0.73 Trillion) and Algerian ($0.49 Trillion)
  • A GDP Per Capita at PPP of $30,000 (#1). Coming in after them would be Seychelles ($27,572), Mauritius ($22,211), Equatorial Guinea ($20,360) and Botswana ($17,630).
  • The 4th lowest poverty rate of 17% (only higher than Seychelles, Mauritius and Cape Verde)
  • The most educated people with 85% High school completion followed only by Egypt (67%) and South Africa (64%).
  • The highest college graduate base 25% degree holders.
  • The most access to healthcare with 80% insured.
  • The 2nd most banked nation at 84%(only beaten by Mauritius 85%)
  • They would have the 2nd highest Life Expectancy (74.8 years) second only to Algeria with 77 years.
  • The lowest death rate at (0.7 per 1000), beating out Rwanda, Algeria, Morroco, Rwanda, and Kenya who all average out at 5 deaths per 1000.
  • They would have the highest homeownership rates (45%)
  • They would have the biggest Employer base (9%) - 2.6 million business
  • They would have the highest employed population with 67% of the adult population formally employed, followed by Lesotho (43%), Mauritius (42%), and Botswana (41%).
  • The highest percentage of Dollar millionaire (1%) followed by Seychelles 0.4%, Mauritius 0.3%, and Botswana 0.1%.
  • The highest wealth per adult $35,000 (Africa averaging $200 per adult in wealth).

and this is just economic and education. everyone already knows we are culturally the most influential and the most talented as well. From inventions that impact the world globally to entertainers. There is no African Garrett Morgan. No African Aretha Franklin.
 

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Playing stupid doesn't change the fact what I said is true.


The jeulzing continues. I asked a specific question and you refused to answer it.



You're the one playing in my face. You have an obvious bias and hand-wave away anything done by any African.
how did the 3 billion dollars generated from the year of the return help us? why didn’t ghana offer business grants and scholarships to black americans with some of the money?
 

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I applaud your patience but sometimes you just gotta just hit these Fleers with hard facts black and white


If Black America was a country in Africa they would be the most prosperous nation in Africa by almost every single metric with:

  • A GDP PPP of $1.5 Trillion (#1) followed by Egypt ($1.12 Trillion), Nigeria ($ 1.01 Trillion), South Africa ($0.73 Trillion) and Algerian ($0.49 Trillion)
  • A GDP Per Capita at PPP of $30,000 (#1). Coming in after them would be Seychelles ($27,572), Mauritius ($22,211), Equatorial Guinea ($20,360) and Botswana ($17,630).
  • The 4th lowest poverty rate of 17% (only higher than Seychelles, Mauritius and Cape Verde)
  • The most educated people with 85% High school completion followed only by Egypt (67%) and South Africa (64%).
  • The highest college graduate base 25% degree holders.
  • The most access to healthcare with 80% insured.
  • The 2nd most banked nation at 84%(only beaten by Mauritius 85%)
  • They would have the 2nd highest Life Expectancy (74.8 years) second only to Algeria with 77 years.
  • The lowest death rate at (0.7 per 1000), beating out Rwanda, Algeria, Morroco, Rwanda, and Kenya who all average out at 5 deaths per 1000.
  • They would have the highest homeownership rates (45%)
  • They would have the biggest Employer base (9%) - 2.6 million business
  • They would have the highest employed population with 67% of the adult population formally employed, followed by Lesotho (43%), Mauritius (42%), and Botswana (41%).
  • The highest percentage of Dollar millionaire (1%) followed by Seychelles 0.4%, Mauritius 0.3%, and Botswana 0.1%.
  • The highest wealth per adult $35,000 (Africa averaging $200 per adult in wealth).

and this is just economic and education. everyone already knows we are culturally the most influential and the most talented as well. From inventions that impact the world globally to entertainers. There is no African Garrett Morgan. No African Aretha Franklin.
There’s no African-Anyone for most of our ethnic group.

To even have 10% of what we’ve done it would take combining all African nations and ethnic groups and even still comes up short
 

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how did the 3 billion dollars generated from the year of the return help us? why didn’t ghana offer business grants and scholarships to black americans with some of the money?
No one forced those people to spend their money. They obviously got something from it or went looking for something on their own.

Now answer the question. What makes you oh so better than Africans then?
 
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