"I am not black , we are not black , don't call me that"

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They aint trying to be unified with Africans, they trying to be unified with cacs :lolbron:


Videos like this might forget to add the middle eastern guy, or the girl from malaysia... but they'll be damn sure to add 50% white people :mjpls:
People who think like the poet will look for any and every reason to separate themselves from other Black people, but the turnaround and embrace some United Nations "we are the world" narrative. I've seen too much of this contradictory thought process play out in real life, away from The Coli.

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I mean.... that's wonderful flowery wordage that has nothing to do with life here on earth so.... :yeshrug:

Until I am able to discard my body and pick up a new one while here on this planet, those words mean very little:yeshrug:
The point is not to discard your body but to realize that there is more. It's like living in a single room all your life and thinking that that is the world until someone opens the door and shows you while the room is real, there's a whole world outside of it. People always think of one thing or the other, they have problems seeing the big picture. The poet is looking at it from the spiritual lens, while keeping the physical realm out of focus. Most people have their focus on the physical realm while being blind to the spiritual.

So yes, on the grand scheme we are all humans, all carbon life forms, all atoms. But we are also people with a ancestry, culture and history. People choose what to focus on.
 

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Video is corny but as quiet as it's kept, the concept of blackness hasn't done us any favors. Apart from certain trivial cultural elements like our music, blackness is generally seen as a negative, the opposite end of a spectrum that puts whiteness on the positive end. A spectrum created by white supremacists.

Putting Jamaicans, Haitians, Nigerians, Kenyans, Aframs, etc all under this same umbrella term even though the term itself is rooted in troublesome notions of racial hierarchy (with black at the bottom) doesn't seem to be working for us. Great civilizations have crumbled once whites forced said societies to internalize the idea of their 'blackness' - Ethiopia for instance, one of the greatest civilizations in human history now essentially reduced to a wasteland.

I think 'blacks' would be much better off if we were defined by our cultures (Sudanese culture, Ghanaian culture, etc) instead of being defined by this all encompassing idea of blackness rooted in phenotype.

Thats why when people mention 'countries', they mention Africa, even though it's a continent. They say China, Russia, India, Italy and then say 'Africa'. Once you can define 1 billion people under a single term, you better hope the term isn't rooted in anything negative, or all 1 billion people are in some way, fukked.

So we basically gotta do one of two things; do away with the word black all together and pick a better word, 'Melanoid' or something else so we can rebrand...or we can simply use the power of resources and media to convince the world it's whiteness that is on the negative end. Either way, action has to be taken.

I appreciate that you are trying to think of a solution, but....

I'm not sure who this would be best directed to.

All of this doesn't really help African Americans who have spent many generations in America.
And you don't need to teach Africans the differences between them and other Africans. They are very aware of it, trust me.

I think what you are missing is that if black people at large (especially black americans) refuse to call themselves black, it does nothing to solve any of the issues at hand. If it did, that would mean that Systematic oppression and discrimination was an issue that was completely in controlled by black people.

I can assure you it is not.

Rebranding actually isn't a terrible idea (just pointless)... but dropping "all labels" entirely is an extremely terrible idea... because it doesn't make sense logically.

I'll use a visual to explain it.

Its like this pie graph.

graph_abcd.gif


You have A, B, C, D.
This is not a venn diagram, there is no overlapping here.:troll:

So if A (black people) say to B,C,D "Hey, stop calling us A, we don't want to controlled by that label anymore :ufdup:"
BCD will say "... Okay, but you're still not part of B, C, or D. So... i guess we'll call you AA now? :skip:"
AA: "That's better, that should solve everything:whew:"


C1 (cacs): "I just interviewed someone for the position, he's good but he's an A :scust:"
C2: "Hey don't call them that, they wan't to be called AA now"
C1: "Oh.... okay well he's good but he's an
AA. That better?"
C2: ":yeshrug:



There you have it brehs I present you with the end of racism :blessed:




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"Black" is def a cac coined term. I use it but I think African is a better term. Nobody is the color black.

We African,calling ourselves "black" kinda ignoreS our heritage. I think it's a way for us to be assimilated here and not identify with our roots

":ufdup:Like I'm black I ain't African like them nikkas "

My struggle is that I want to embrace my African roots and learn my original langAge/culture/traditions but I don't know my country/tribe ETC
 
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The point is not to discard your body but to realize that there is more. It's like living in a single room all your life and thinking that that is the world until someone opens the door and shows you while the room is real, there's a whole world outside of it. People always think of one thing or the other, they have problems seeing the big picture. The poet is looking at it from the spiritual lens, while keeping the physical realm out of focus. Most people have their focus on the physical realm while being blind to the spiritual.

So yes, on the grand scheme we are all humans, all carbon life forms, all atoms. But we are also people with a ancestry, culture and history. People choose what to focus on.

I don't disagree with any part of this. I just don't think it solves the external issue of racism :yeshrug:
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In Christianity the belief is that the soul is eternal and the body will be made new in the presence of the Lord.
I mean... I can go tell someone who is racist against black people that when we are with the Lord, race will not be a factor.

How effective will that be... Iono fam :yeshrug:
 

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:comeon: Yes it is true because race still was not a concept during the Spanish inquisition and my point is that even though race was not a concept, there still was a case of "othering" in which CACs deemed those not of CAC skin to be a savage. It is widely accepted among scholars that official conception of race was in 1684, that is an undisputed fact.
You've got to be a real stupid motherfukker to think that people weren't categorized by their skin color until 1684. The concept of race is basically a product of European exploration and colonization. When the Europeans began exploring and encountering people who had different skin tones then they had they began categorizing them. The term "negro" was used to describe the people of Africa by the Spanish as early as the 15th century.
 

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You've got to be a real stupid motherfukker to think that people weren't categorized by their skin color until 1684. The concept of race is basically a product of European exploration and colonization. When the Europeans began exploring and encountering people who had different skin tones then they had they began categorizing them. The term "negro" was used to describe the people of Africa by the Spanish as early as the 15th century.

People were colorblind back in my day :troll:
The only race I know about is the 4x4 relay :troll:
I didn't know I was black until my mum told me, if not for her, I would have no concept of race :troll:
Black people are genetically the same as white people, just a little sunburnt :troll:
This body is just temporary, racism doesn't matter :troll:
If we impregnate enough white women, everyone will look mixed, and there will be no racism:troll:
Black people are the most racist people on earth. If we were nicer to white people, there would be no racism :troll:
 

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We didn't need white people to teach us how to be black. This one kills me. You remedials in here always stay on this shyt about "Africans didn't know any better until the white man started calling them black" FUKK OUTTA HERE WITH THAT NONSENSE. Africans knew damn well that they were very different than white people. You acting like brehs couldn't tell the difference between them and a white man prior to Jim Crow laws. The only difference is white people used these differences as a means to degrade us, but we use these differences as a means to uplift ourselves and promote our excellence. I don't want white looks, white hair, white features, white skin. Those tactics don't work on proud black people (oh look, another label:krs:


The bold statement is a fact. I don't know where most people get this idea of: "Africans didn't know they were black until the white came and started calling us black". When for a fact our ancestors know the difference. My cousin schooled mi on this.

I don't wanna see any Haitians, Jamaicans or anybody from any sub-Saharan African nation agreeing with the poet, and then going on to segregate themselves from other Black people.

How can we embrace a "We're all one human race" concept, when we fight to segregate ourselves from other Black people, based the MOST artificial of cultural differences? You mean to tell me, me and that White German guy are the same :krs: but me and that Igbo gal have nothing in common besides our skin color? :jbhmm:

Some of you were in that Trevor Noah thread talking that "Africa's a large continent, don't box us in. We're culturally diffirent" and I get it. That's cool. But don't turnaround and embrace this poets nonsense in the same token...

:manny:

"But, but, but, we're all the same people dispite what the white man created, dispite what the white man did in the past and now. Not all white people are evil. There are some good white people in this world, so get over slavery. We're all the same people no matter what. ":mjpls:
 

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I don't disagree with any part of this. I just don't think it solves the external issue of racism :yeshrug:
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In Christianity the belief is that the soul is eternal and the body will be made new in the presence of the Lord.
I mean... I can go tell someone who is racist against black people that when we are with the Lord, race will not be a factor.

How effective will that be... Iono fam :yeshrug:
Ok... It's not trying to solve racism tho.
 

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Prince Ea look like the type of guy who would let a 45 year old racist/homosexual/pedophile Zionist brutally sodomize him on his $20 million yacht just for a record deal.
 
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