"I am not black , we are not black , don't call me that"

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I appreciate that you are trying to think of a solution, but....

I'm not sure who this would be best directed to.

All of this doesn't really help African Americans who have spent many generations in America.
And you don't need to teach Africans the differences between them and other Africans. They are very aware of it, trust me.

I think what you are missing is that if black people at large (especially black americans) refuse to call themselves black, it does nothing to solve any of the issues at hand. If it did, that would mean that Systematic oppression and discrimination was an issue that was completely in controlled by black people.

I can assure you it is not.

Rebranding actually isn't a terrible idea (just pointless)... but dropping "all labels" entirely is an extremely terrible idea... because it doesn't make sense logically.

I'll use a visual to explain it.

Its like this pie graph.

graph_abcd.gif


You have A, B, C, D.
This is not a venn diagram, there is no overlapping here.:troll:

So if A (black people) say to B,C,D "Hey, stop calling us A, we don't want to controlled by that label anymore :ufdup:"
BCD will say "... Okay, but you're still not part of B, C, or D. So... i guess we'll call you AA now? :skip:"
AA: "That's better, that should solve everything:whew:"


C1 (cacs): "I just interviewed someone for the position, he's good but he's an A :scust:"
C2: "Hey don't call them that, they wan't to be called AA now"
C1: "Oh.... okay well he's good but he's an
AA. That better?"
C2: ":yeshrug:



There you have it brehs I present you with the end of racism :blessed:




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Im not advocating for the end of labels...I thought the video was silly in that respect, and im not simply calling for a new label for the sake of it either. im calling for 'blacks' to define themselves on their own terms, not on the terms forced on them by white supremacist doctrine. I know youre resistant to this idea and i know I wont get daps but we did not decide that label for ourselves, it was given to us for a reason.

'Blackness' was invented as an inverted construct of 'whiteness'. You can't have blackness without whiteness. Thats not an issue in and of itself but it becomes an issue when the black side has no control over how the construct is defined. Thats why there isn't a single first world 'black' nation on the planet and not a single third world 'white' nation on the planet. Because 'blackness' was invented for the sole purpose of being the opposite of whiteness; rich/poor, smart/dumb, beautiful/ugly, pure/mixed, civilized/savage...

I believe we've internalized this idea subconsciously and we should reject it. Im not saying we shouldn't call ourselves and our phenotype something; im just saying black is not it. I think Melanoid (or something that puts emphasis on the superiority of our skin) is perfect because if melanin is good, what's bad?:jawalrus:
 

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Im not advocating for the end of labels...I thought the video was silly in that respect, and im not simply calling for a new label for the sake of it either. im calling for 'blacks' to define themselves on their own terms, not on the terms forced on them by white supremacist doctrine. I know youre resistant to this idea and i know I wont get daps but we did not decide that label for ourselves, it was given to us for a reason.

'Blackness' was invented as an inverted construct of 'whiteness'. You can't have blackness without whiteness. Thats not an issue in and of itself but it becomes an issue when the black side has no control over how the construct is defined. Thats why there isn't a single first world 'black' nation on the planet and not a single third world 'white' nation on the planet. Because 'blackness' was invented for the sole purpose of being the opposite of whiteness; rich/poor, smart/dumb, beautiful/ugly, pure/mixed, civilized/savage...

I believe we've internalized this idea subconsciously and we should reject it. Im not saying we shouldn't call ourselves and our phenotype something; im just saying black is not it. I think Melanoid (or something that puts emphasis on the superiority of our skin) is perfect because if melanin is good, what's bad?:jawalrus:

Like I said above, i didn't say it was a terrible idea, only futile.
You give good reasons though :ehh:
 
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You've got to be a real stupid motherfukker to think that people weren't categorized by their skin color until 1684. The concept of race is basically a product of European exploration and colonization. When the Europeans began exploring and encountering people who had different skin tones then they had they began categorizing them. The term "negro" was used to describe the people of Africa by the Spanish as early as the 15th century.
:mjlol: If you carefully read what I said instead of reacting like a savage you will clearly see that I said before 1684 Europeans "othered" those who did not have white skin, speak there language, or follow there religious practices..Francois Bernier himself was an explorer and traveled many places around the continent of Africa which is what led him to classify humans by "Race"..There is no argument here dunny :camby:
 

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:mjlol: If you carefully read what I said instead of reacting like a savage you will clearly see that I said before 1684 Europeans "othered" those who did not have white skin, speak there language, or follow there religious practices..Francois Bernier himself was an explorer and traveled many places around the continent of Africa which is what led him to classify humans by "Race"..There is no argument here dunny :camby:
You're right I'm certainly not arguing with someone saying that the concept of race was created in 1684. I'm trying to school you. The Spanish didn't call the people that they encountered "other" when they got to Africa in the 1440s they called them "negro" which is the Spanish word for black.
 
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