I don't get the Andrew Wiggins hype...

[MAKAVELI25]

Kobe was better than Lebron at 18?

nice one Kobe>Lebron

You Kobe stans are too much sometimes

 

[Buckeye Fever]

hes gonna have tyus jones passing him the rock in college too.

No he's not

 

[Brozay]

No he's not

No he's not

 

[Art Barr]

Only slight on Wiggins, which is purely ignorant.
Is he is Canadian and could be viewed as a euro.
yet, after you see his performance in the dunk contest.
Which was NBA jams comes to life and the arguably one of the best dunks of all time.
Easily, one of if not the most difficult dunk in dunking history.



Art Barr

 

[Swagnificent]

Kobe was better than Lebron at 18?

Kobe at 18 had way better jumpshot, footwork, and fundamentals. Bron had more athleticism and better passing/vision. They were equal on pretty much everything else (handles, quickness, maturity, etc.).

Only reason Kobe didn't have as much individual success early on is cause he played for a LOADED team. Remember that Eddie Jones, Van Exel, and Shaq were all all-stars. Bron came to the worst team in the league. Put Kobe on the Cavs and he drops 20ppg his first season. He averaged 17ppg his second season coming off the bench playing just 28 minutes is proof he was ready. If he played 38+ minutes like Bron did his first two seasons, he coulda averaged 25+ppg.

 

[Clem]

So Kobe wasn't good enough to start at 18 on the team he was on?

 

[Steezy]

lebron woulda started

 

[#1 pick]

Definitely going to dap the OP. I've been thinking this for months, since they showed his team in a tourney in December on ESPN. Then later showed them in some invitational.

What I like most is that his game is humble. He's not a take the ball every drive type player like Parker or Randle. The funny thing is, I immediately thought of a coordinated Tristan Thompson when he was at Texas. Dude will hustle for every rebound like Dennis Rodman. He's quick off his feet repeatedly and really tips the ball. Based on that alone, he will have success in college. With the ball, he's ok. Not a Kobe type. I would call him athletic as hell, but at the same time he's not the rangey, agile type. I think of him like Dominique Wilkins, but with better handles for his upside and and Reek with lesser driving and ball handling skills at the other. The thing is though, while I wouldn't call him polished, he's pretty mature on the court for a guy his age, which is what puts him ahead of a guy like Randle who is still a bit out of control at times. This is precisely why I think he will have a better season than any freshman out there. He's ready mentally and physically to start and do really well. Not Kevin Durant freshman well, but that level below. This is why he'll get picked first. He's like the perfect college player. He will make Kansas a contender again.

What I don't like about his game..........nothing. He is who he is, but it surprises me that he dominates #1 draft talk. If I'm talking about an NBA impact player at 26, Randle would scare the hell out of me as an opposing player and coach. His on the court drive is relentless. I bet he makes a hard push for #1. It all depends on if Cal can corral this dude and not let him run wild like Archie did. Get him in the flow of the offense, and work on shot selection, he can have a Durant type season. I think Parker and the Andrew Harrison have a chance to better pros as well since their game is crafted more in that vein. Duke's style of play will really enhance Parker's chances. That's why the undisputed #1 hype is weird to me.

Not sure how you see him like Nique. His lateral quickness is off the charts and when he plays man defense, it tends to be very good. He is very active in the passing lanes. He seems a lot more like a 6'8 Allen Iverson than anyone else. He can get to the can at ease. He has a nice shooting stroke. He has a great chance to be one of the best to play this game.

Nique didn't have that. Nique has the scoring and explosiveness and even then he couldn't jump near as high as Wiggins who might be the best jumper since VC.

 

[rantanamo]

Not sure how you see him like Nique. His lateral quickness is off the charts and when he plays man defense, it tends to be very good. He is very active in the passing lanes. He seems a lot more like a 6'8 Allen Iverson than anyone else. He can get to the can at ease. He has a nice shooting stroke. He has a great chance to be one of the best to play this game.

Nique didn't have that. Nique has the scoring and explosiveness and even then he couldn't jump near as high as Wiggins who might be the best jumper since VC.

Not questioning his athleticism at all. Not even questioning his game. But he's not a 6'8 Allen Iverson because that's just not the way he plays. I compare him to Nique because despite Nique being the go to guy, he had a great "garbage" game. Wiggins is great at that stuff. Tip ins, follows, etc. Even though he might possess the ability to be a slasher, that's not what he does very often at this point. Perhaps he gets to Kansas or the NBA and changes that. But I'm just questioning if you spend a #1 on a guy who may never be a first offensive option who isn't a defensive center when there will be some of them available who are on his level.

 

[Art Barr]

Kobe at 18 had way better jumpshot, footwork, and fundamentals. Bron had more athleticism and better passing/vision. They were equal on pretty much everything else (handles, quickness, maturity, etc.).

Only reason Kobe didn't have as much individual success early on is cause he played for a LOADED team. Remember that Eddie Jones, Van Exel, and Shaq were all all-stars. Bron came to the worst team in the league. Put Kobe on the Cavs and he drops 20ppg his first season. He averaged 17ppg his second season coming off the bench playing just 28 minutes is proof he was ready. If he played 38+ minutes like Bron did his first two seasons, he coulda averaged 25+ppg.

Kobe was not near bron's level at all coming out of high school.
kobe was putting up airballs, and had no idea mentally as a rook, what the words high percentage shot selection was.
Stop revising history on bullshyt for the sake of your arguement.


Art Barr

 

[#1 pick]

Not questioning his athleticism at all. Not even questioning his game. But he's not a 6'8 Allen Iverson because that's just not the way he plays. I compare him to Nique because despite Nique being the go to guy, he had a great "garbage" game. Wiggins is great at that stuff. Tip ins, follows, etc. Even though he might possess the ability to be a slasher, that's not what he does very often at this point. Perhaps he gets to Kansas or the NBA and changes that. But I'm just questioning if you spend a #1 on a guy who may never be a first offensive option who isn't a defensive center when there will be some of them available who are on his level.

The problem with that is Nique lacked lateral quickness, he struggled greatly on defense, he didn't make others better because of his lack of playmaking ability. Nique while not the same as Melo overall impact in his prime is Melo like. Wiggins is more like A.I. but much taller, his impact can be off the charts. A.I. also was a good defender even though he was undersized. A.I. didn't have to work on his game much because he was so good as it was. Wiggins is the same but if Wiggins does which he has, the sky is truly the limit for him.

As someone who has watched a lot of Nique. I don't see the comparisons even if their are things both players could do extremely well.

Not quite sure how Wiggins isn't a #1 option? He always seemed to be one in HS, seems to be one in college and seems to be one in the NBA. Not sure about your statement. I am really questioning if you watched Wiggins play.

I too as others mentioned is more hyped about Okafor more than any other prospect. His skills is already top 10 for any NBA center as a 17 year old. He can only get bigger and better from here.

 

[Flight]

Y'all are hyping up Karl Towns & Jahlil but really sleeping on Cliff Alexander. He's a beast in the paint.

 

[Tom Shady]

Jabari Parker does not have the look of an nba superstar, he flabby like pp

 

[Frump]

Y'all are hyping up Karl Towns & Jahlil but really sleeping on Cliff Alexander. He's a beast in the paint.

The problem for him on the nba level is hes only about 6'8 but plays like a center

 

[Frump]

Not questioning his athleticism at all. Not even questioning his game. But he's not a 6'8 Allen Iverson because that's just not the way he plays. I compare him to Nique because despite Nique being the go to guy, he had a great "garbage" game. Wiggins is great at that stuff. Tip ins, follows, etc. Even though he might possess the ability to be a slasher, that's not what he does very often at this point. Perhaps he gets to Kansas or the NBA and changes that. But I'm just questioning if you spend a #1 on a guy who may never be a first offensive option who isn't a defensive center when there will be some of them available who are on his level.

I agree i dont think Wiggins will ever be a great scorer to where he can be the no 1 option on a title team..he reminds me of an old player David Thompson..

If you could combine Parkers skillset with Wiggins athletic ability and explosiveness youd have one of the best players of all time