I don't think Jason Witten deserves to be in the HOF

[feelosofer]

No, I didn't disregard his blocking skills. I said they're of much consequence when it comes to HOF criteria. If you can show me a HOF TE who is in primarily or even significantly because of blocking I'll fall back. But you can't. Winslow and Newsome didn't block anyone and nobody questions them being in.

I didn't say DCs didn't worry about him, he just was never that threat you had to gameplan for.

He's consistent and he produces. I just think to be a HOF you have to be a dangerous playmaker as well and he was never that. My case stands.

You on the other hand have all but admit he would be the worst TE to make the hall, but are still saying an argument that he doesn't deserve it is somehow "shyt posting." Yeah ok.

You're half right most of the tight ends in the HOF weren't elite blockers. But even if you don't take that into account he hold 6 NFL records for TE's as a receiver and is 10th all time in receptions. Dude was an ironman in a position which has you blocking violently in half the plays. He's an arguable 1st ballot and a no brainer second ballot.

 

[Codeine Bryant]

Dumb thread by dumb poster.

Dude is an ironman, I think he's only missed 1 game his entire career. Always makes big catches in crunch time. If it's 3rd or 4th down late in the game, everybody in the stadium knows who Romo is targeting and he STILL manages to haul it in. He's not just a good blocker, he's arguably the best blocking TE in the history of the game.

He's a better all around TE than Antonio Gates. Gates fathered Jimmy Graham's style: WR in a TE body. Not much of a blocker, mainly a route runner. That's not the primary definition of a TE.

TE was originally meant to essentially be a 6th lineman who could also be an eligible receiver down field to keep the defense honest. That's literally Jason Witten.

You're exposing yourself as a casual fan by making this dumb ass thread.

"He avg 0.3ypc less than Tony G!!"

He completely outclassed all of his contemporaries and probably all other TEs in one facet of the game which is blocking. And he was pretty dominant in the other aspect which is being your QBs security blanket and catching passes.

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

Whi

This guy Victor Von Doom use to suck Tim Brown off who to me was a total stat compiler.

Jason Witten makes plays.. All the time.. Over a period of over 10 years now.. He’s guttin defenses in the seams.. Defensive Coordinators know on 3rd down (the money down) that Romo is gonna look for Witten in the seam for that 1st down and they still couldn't stop him That right there shuts down your argument about DC’s not gameplanning for him

Tim Brown was never a dominant player. Never. He had speed when he was younger and was primarily a special teamer that gradually turned himself into a good WR.. He played a long time and compiled numbers on some Rafael Palmiero shyt and he got in..

Witten is a Hall of Famer..

While I do find it amusing when posters who I don't even recognize are so affected by me that they remember shyt I said years ago that I barely remember saying, that's a shytty comparison.

Saying Tim Brown was never dominant exposes you as ignorant and having never watched him play before he was a possession receiver in his latter days with Gannon. Young Tim Brown ran a 4.3-4.4 and was explosive and was always a scary threat deep or running after the catch despite playing with a bevy of shytty QBs.

 

[Joe Sixpack]

Whi


While I do find it amusing when posters who I don't even recognize are so affected by me that they remember shyt I said years ago that I barely remember saying, that's a shytty comparison.

Saying Tim Brown was never dominant exposes you as ignorant and having never watched him play before he was a possession receiver in his latter days with Gannon. Young Tim Brown ran a 4.3-4.4 and was explosive and was always a scary threat deep or running after the catch despite playing with a bevy of shytty QBs.

I just broke down Tim Brown's whole career for you but I never saw him play

And running a 4.3 or 4.4 makes you a Hall of Famer now

Like I said... Break down Hillary Clinton's ability to not tell the truth..

That's what you are qualified to talk about and even that is a stretch .

 

[BlueHeffner]

OP has to be


Jason Witten is the 3rd Best TE ever, and has the stats to back that up.

Most Receptions by a TE in a single game record
Most Receptions in a season by a Dallas Cowboy
Most Receptions by a TE in a season in NFL history
2nd most receptions all time by a TE
2nd most receiving yrds by a TE
Will retire in the top 3 in receptions ALL Time



But yea hes not a HOF

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

Dumb thread by dumb poster.

Dude is an ironman, I think he's only missed 1 game his entire career. Always makes big catches in crunch time. If it's 3rd or 4th down late in the game, everybody in the stadium knows who Romo is targeting and he STILL manages to haul it in. He's not just a good blocker, he's arguably the best blocking TE in the history of the game.

He's a better all around TE than Antonio Gates. Gates fathered Jimmy Graham's style: WR in a TE body. Not much of a blocker, mainly a route runner. That's not the primary definition of a TE.

TE was originally meant to essentially be a 6th lineman who could also be an eligible receiver down field to keep the defense honest. That's literally Jason Witten.

You're exposing yourself as a casual fan by making this dumb ass thread.

"He avg 0.3ypc less than Tony G!!"

He completely outclassed all of his contemporaries and probably all other TEs in one facet of the game which is blocking. And he was pretty dominant in the other aspect which is being your QBs security blanket and catching passes.

No he averages 1.6 less ypc than Gates. When talking about averages, that is quite significant.

And he is not better than Gates, fukk outta here. I see you're a Cowboys fan and all but no GM in the league would take a prime Witten over a prime Gates.

 

[DaPresident]

I most certainly do not agree...but OP you entitled to your opinion, no matter how far off base it is

 

[Codeine Bryant]

No he averages 1.6 less ypc than Gates. When talking about averages, that is quite significant.

And he is not better than Gates, fukk outta here. I see you're a Cowboys fan and all but no GM in the league would take a prime Witten over a prime Gates.

Teams that like to run the ball would.

You get a slight decrease in receiving performance but a huge uptick in the running game.

Also never had any sort of injury concern the way Gates has had. Every year Gates is having some nagging injury he's either playing through or missing time with.

Witten also never took PEDs.

But hey, I guess all you care about in a TE is running the seam route and catching the ball. As if that's the only thing they're supposed to do. You do realize that teams run the football anywhere from 40-50% of the game, yes? Run blocking matters, especially for a TE.

Gates hasn't topped 1,000 yards since 2009. Witten has done that TWICE since then. Witten also has more than double 1,000 yard seasons than Gates. But hey, these stats aren't convenient for your argument so I'm sure you'll just ignore all of this and go back to spewing your dumb rhetoric about his "whiteness."

 

[Codeine Bryant]

• Most receptions in a single season by a tight end: 110 (2012)
• Most receptions in a single game by a tight end: 18 (October 28, 2012)
• Second most receptions and receiving yards by a tight end in NFL history (behind Tony Gonzalez)

He's not Antonio Gates tho

 

[Joe Sixpack]

Teams that like to run the ball would.

You get a slight decrease in receiving performance but a huge uptick in the running game.

Also never had any sort of injury concern the way Gates has had. Every year Gates is having some nagging injury he's either playing through or missing time with.

Witten also never took PEDs.

But hey, I guess all you care about in a TE is running the seam route and catching the ball. As if that's the only thing they're supposed to do. You do realize that teams run the football anywhere from 40-50% of the game, yes? Run blocking matters, especially for a TE.

Gates hasn't topped 1,000 yards since 2009. Witten has done that TWICE since then. Witten also has more than double 1,000 yard seasons than Gates. But hey, these stats aren't convenient for your argument so I'm sure you'll just ignore all of this and go back to spewing your dumb rhetoric about his "whiteness."

 

[Verbal Kint]

That you, Bomani?

 

[Big Blue]

As a Giants fan, OP is a fool.

 

[DallasTxRep]

No.
But he was a damn good TE and way more valuable to the Cowboys than Moose Johnson ever was.

don't sleep on Moose bruh. Emmitt can't even mention his name without damn near breaking into tears

 

[Remote]

He was

 

[who_better_than_me]

Ive seen dc throw cornerbacks on coverage for Witten. Don't tell me that DC's arent gameplanning against him.