I feel like taking away cellphones shouldn't be a punishment.

[O.T.I.S.]

Boys need discipline. I’m not an advocate of beatings kids. My son is 3 and never been spanked. But boys need to be raised by strong male authority figures and be taught how to be a man. Along with being raised nurturing mothers to learn the other side.

If not they will grow to be weak and emotional like most of these boys are.

Nothing about still having it, every society the young at some point challenges the old and the old has to lay down law. That don’t mean I’m whooping your ass, I means I’m coming to you with pure masculine energy, letting you know you fukking up.

Him arguing like a female with a female lets me know he don’t have that and that’s why he bucked at the coach also.

That coach I’m sure is leader of boys and they respect him. This boy don’t have that, and boys without that leader will do stuff like this

They don’t need to be thrown down a flight of stairs over an argument though

Not by an adult. This is the reason they are the adult.. they are supposed to deescalate situations, not make them worse

 

[Braman]

This young man does have behavior problems BUT me and the other staff members know that it takes a lot for him to actually get physical with someone.

What you mean “BUT” as if he deserves credit for not gettin physical. You not supposed to get physical.

Stop coddling them boys breh. I have 2 nephews and a little brother. Bout a 7,8 year age gap in between each and I’ve seen with all 3: Kids/teens ALWAYS got an excuse. ‘Me and friend were just…they was pickin on me….’. Don’t accept that. Get them out of that ‘I’ve been wronged so I’m justified to do fukkery’ victim mentality IMMEDIATELY.

As far as your instruction ‘take out your phone and record’ now you making it more potentially confusing. You’re introducing another variable that allows the kid to buck authority.

The solution to this issue is already in place: cameras. Everywhere. They need to be on at all times. Also the teacher shoulda been fired if he had 3 incidents. You fix those situations so there are no excuses.

 

[Ineedmoney504]

They don’t need to be thrown down a flight of stairs over an argument though

Not by an adult. This is the reason they are the adult.. they are supposed to deescalate situations, not make them worse

I agree. It 1000% don’t think the teacher woulda thrown him down a flight of stairs lol. That was letting him know to check that macho energy at the door. Cause this ain’t that kid gonna go out there in the world and do this emotional shyt and get bye head knocked off.

It’s like when my girl was getting on my son to do something and I have to intervene and I don’t have to say much, I’ve never touched this kid in my life, the he straightens up and gets right.

This kid didn’t have that clearly and is on the wrong path and is being enabled by probably mostly female staff who think being soft and negotiating with him is a way to get him to be right.

 

[NoMoreWhiteWoman2020]

They don’t need to be thrown down a flight of stairs over an argument though

Not by an adult. This is the reason they are the adult.. they are supposed to deescalate situations, not make them worse

Coach should have got someone to watch his class for 4-5 minutes and went to talk to the young man. That old school shyt will get you shot these days
But I’m glad that style of teaching and coaching is dying out. By showing that young man a different path other than force and violence would really be a valuable lesson.

 

[Braman]

Kids should be made aware explicitly that on school grounds your phone can be taken. You don’t allow kids on the phone and feed atrocious attention span habits just to accommodate the .001% there’s a school shooting and the .000001% that during a school shooting your phone happened to be confiscated at the time

 

[Ineedmoney504]

Coach should have got someone to watch his class for 4-5 minutes and went to talk to the young man. That old school shyt will get you shot these days
But I’m glad that style of teaching and coaching is dying out. By showing that young man a different path other than force and violence would really be a valuable lesson.

Being afraid to disciple kids out of fear of getting shot is a problem

 

[O.T.I.S.]

I agree. It 1000% don’t think the teacher woulda thrown him down a flight of stairs lol. That was letting him know to check that macho energy at the door. Cause this ain’t that kid gonna go out there in the world and do this emotional shyt and get bye head knocked off.

It’s like when my girl was getting on my son to do something and I have to intervene and I don’t have to say much, I’ve never touched this kid in my life, the he straightens up and gets right.

This kid didn’t have that clearly and is on the wrong path and is being enabled by probably mostly female staff who think being soft and negotiating with him is a way to get him to be right.

Kid is just loss, which happens when you come from broken homes and environments but this coach went OD.

Conveniently took him in the corridor with broken cameras after putting his hands on him first when no one was putting hands on anybody.

And it’s NOT the first incident either.. a more important fact.

Seems like a power trip to me. You’re a teacher… teach. You’re not a bouncer in a club

 

[Rhapture]

What you mean “BUT” as if he deserves credit for not gettin physical. You not supposed to get physical.

Same could be said for the coach. I read your whole post and I appreciate you giving me another perspective. I need it before I set things in motion. I'll admit I'm a little biased so y'all coming with different opinions is very helpful.

 

[Braman]

I’m not trying to be divisive but just providing perspective: I come from a stereotypical strict African household and father. So when these topics come up I feel there’s a huge blind spot from men born to fathers who were either part time in the home or not in the home at all

I say that bc this whole notion of negotiation and coddling and excuses and challenging authority is insane to me. I think of it from a ‘shoot for the moon land in the stars’ perspective. Meaning, you demand excellence and no nonsense from your son. He’ll make mistakes of course but in the long run he’ll land right bc his bar is high.

I feel that boys with compromised guidance always have an ‘aww give the kid a break’ foundation, or accepting less than. There’s always an excuse. If that’s the foundation by the time he’s an adult he’s gonna find a way to make excuses for his fukkery and it’s a snowball of lowered expectations

 

[Rhapture]

I’m not trying to be divisive but just providing perspective: I come from a stereotypical strict African household and father. So when these topics come up I feel there’s a huge blind spot from men born to fathers who were either part time in the home or not in the home at all

I say that bc this whole notion of negotiation and coddling and excuses and challenging authority is insane to me. I think of it from a ‘shoot for the moon land in the stars’ perspective. Meaning, you demand excellence and no nonsense from your son. He’ll make mistakes of course but in the long run he’ll land right bc his bar is high.

I feel that boys with compromised guidance always have an ‘aww give the kid a break’ foundation, or accepting less than. There’s always an excuse. If that’s the foundation by the time he’s an adult he’s gonna find a way to make excuses for his fukkery and it’s a snowball of lowered expectations

I agree that bad behavior should be corrected. I feel it should be corrected when it comes to children and adults. Yes it's bad behavior for kids to be in a hallway telling each other they gonna do this and that to each other. It's also bad behavior to single out one kid, jack them up, threaten to throw them down the stairs and try to provoke them to hit you. I believe that there was a better way to deescalate. "When I say kids are gonna be kids" I'm not trying to excuse the young man or the young lady's behavior. I just expect people my age and older to be able to reason better than a teenager. Yes you can't show weakness but I wouldn't call getting physical when the situation called for it strength either. I'll accept that I may be coddling him when it comes to the phone situation though

 

[Braman]

I agree that bad behavior should be corrected. I feel it should be corrected when it comes to children and adults. Yes it's bad behavior for kids to be in a hallway telling each other they gonna do this and that to each other. It's also bad behavior to single out one kid, jack them up, threaten to throw them down the stairs and try to provoke them to hit you. I believe that there was a better way to deescalate. "When I say kids are gonna be kids" I'm not trying to excuse the young man or the young lady's behavior. I just expect people my age and older to be able to reason better than a teenager. Yes you can't show weakness but I wouldn't call getting physical when the situation called for it strength either. I'll accept that I may be coddling him when it comes to the phone situation though

Yea for sure I went on a bit of a tangent but make no mistake this isn’t your problem to ‘fix’. It’s a parent issue. By the time they get to you, at that age you can only do so much.

 

[7th Letter Specialist]

Ay...Rhap..u my day one, my nikka, the homie ...But I'll be damned if I'ma read all my shyt.
Also, we ALL need our phones taken away. We just need the O.G. Nokias

 

[Rhapture]

Ay...Rhap..u my day one, my nikka, the homie ...But I'll be damned if I'ma read all my shyt.
Also, we ALL need our phones taken away. We just need the O.G. Nokias

Not the Nokia

 

[Ineedmoney504]

Not the Nokia

And btw can I simp a little and tell you that you beautiful and thank you for being on this site. We need you

 

[How Sway?]

Another example of Gen x being the WOAT.

That coach did the most for no reason. (Assuming that what he did was true)