I hate race bate threads but Kid Rock should have never gotten a pass.

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Nah. Christina ain't really start getting backlash until "Let's Get Dirty" feat Redman came out. Then they started callin her Xtina and draggin her thru the mud. They was cool wit Genie In a Bottle. She was in competition with Britney Spears. Even tho she's far more talented. When she went more urban. It was Xtina this. Xtina that.


Yes and no. She was in competition with Brit to some degree but she wasn't actually considered to be in the same lane as her. Ag was always seen as "soulful" and something similar to the Mariah Carey's of the world while Brit was always seen as "pure" white pop.
 

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Yes and no. She was in competition with Brit to some degree but she wasn't actually considered to be in the same lane as her. Ag was always seen as "soulful" and something similar to the Mariah Carey's of the world while Brit was always seen as "pure" white pop.
When Genie In A Bottle came out. It was like Ryu vs Ken wit them bytches. Even tho Christina technically had far more talent. People didn't really see how different she was as a talent till after that single.
 

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When Genie In A Bottle came out. It was like Ryu vs Ken wit them bytches. Even tho Christina technically had far more talent. People didn't really see how different she was as a talent till after that single.

On "Genie in a bottle" Ag was doing R&B runs in way that Brit could only dream of.

The demo track that the record company had heard originally was used as a basis for Aguilera's actual recording as she simply replaced the vocals on the demo with her own before the writers and producers edited it for improvement, however after the first recording was completed they felt her vocals were too "hard" sounding and a second proved to be "softer" which they had wished for.[10] Kipner co-writer of the track was impressed by Aguilera's performance of complex R&B lines during the recording of the track, something he only saw in older artists comparing her vocals to that of; Chaka Khan, Etta James and Mariah Carey.[9] The recording of "Genie in a Bottle" was detailed in an article by Sound on Sound in which David Frank described the development of the track.[13] Before Frank had met Aguilera most of "Genie in a Bottle" had already been completed, he had heard a tape delivered by RCA featuring Aguilera's performance of "Reflection" but Frank feared she could not perform in a "hip-hop orientated style".[13] The instrumental for "Genie in a Bottle" was almost complete before the entire composition had been finished, it was only when he was contacted by songwriter Pam Sheyne that they progressed in writing the track and later Frank contacted Steve Kipner "a good friend" of his, and after agreeing to collaborate the three continued writing "Genie in a Bottle".[13]

Brit was never looked at in that way by the talent scouts
 

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Pink pissed me off wit that shyt but Christina actually came out on some pop shyt first and got more edgy later. Then the public started shytting on her for it. fukk Pink forever tho. That bytch presented herself to LA Reid as an RnB artist. He blew this bytch up and then she turned around and lied on him talkin bout he forced that image on her.


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I couldn't agree more. Jay shoulda got at him after the Beyonce comments.

This clown ran around on stage with RUN DMC and now look at him
 

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Y'all get so mad when a white person who once did rap or R&B decide to go pop or country. They all have an expiration date, nikkas ain't paying to see them in concert and damn sure weren't buying their albums. The money went dry in the urban market so they went where the money is, in pop and country. Kid Rock's been country for more than decade, he's been gone from rap for awhile now so his "hood pass" has collected dust.

nikkas really having in-depth discussions about christina aguilera....
It's really amazing. EVERY recognizable pop star since the mid 90's has done an album influenced by R&B/Hip Hop or had rappers on it. Some guys either act dumb or are quick to fight for "the culture" without knowing anything. :rudy:
 

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See this is how ignorant you are. To say Pop music is white music is ignorance. You don't even know the power and influence of Black music if you truly think that. Black artist define Pop music and have done so for decades. There are white-washed, watered down variations of it, the same way there's white-washed, watered down iterations of Rock, Jazz, and just about every other form of music. Basically, any form of American music can be traced back to Black people. The King of Pop is Black. "bu, bu, but, he bleached his skin":

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^^^ Biggest album in music history and it was made by a Black man who made Pop music.



You don't even know what Urban Pop is. But I'm gonna let you keep exposing yourself.

Bruh, "color card" doesn't make me racist. Then again, you're not intelligent enough to discern the difference between typing a wall of texts filled with smilies and debating. And to make it worse you're not even Black. So you can miss me with all the race talk. The only time you've ever been in any hood is when you poke holes in a sheet and put it over your head to hide how disgusting you really are.

R&B artists rip off popular rap records all the time especially when they are working with Hip Hop producers.

Sonically, Back To Basics is much more Hip Hop/R&B than Stripped. Premo produced five songs and they all sound like his signature Hip Hop style. Rich Harrison and Kwame also produced records on the album. The Jazz and Blues homages were in the lyrics.

You've pretty much sat there and generalized that all Christina fans were white. Then you've admitted to bumping her music and even referred to her as Xtina. So you're pretty much in here admitting that you're a white female. This would explain why everything sounds white to you.
:snoop:You just showed how ignorant you are for thinkin I'm sayin blacks don't make pop music, I literally said multiple times blacks make pop I said in that post TLC did pop but most pop is white as are most pop fans which is what I pointed out (you tryna deny that like the black community largely bumps pop on the regular just proves how out of touch you are wit black people:patrice:I'm seriously questionin if you even black at all). You typed that up and looked for that MJ Thriler pic to post like you had some winnin talkin point against me:mjlol:and rock was started by blacks but its fully white now nikkas doin rock is so rare it always gets noticed like when Living Colour came out so sayin there's "white washed watered down iterations of rock" is laughable since the whole genre is white washed and has been since Elvis.

You don't know what Urban Pop is white folks try to call R&B that shyt but its really the type of pop that Christina was doin on the album we talkin bout, you exposed yourself as havin piss poor readin comprehension and mislabelin genres to cape for the white bytch. I didn't say it was racist I said usin the terms "color card" "race card" etc is c00n shyt cause whites say that to discredit blacks when we call out racism and c00ns like you say it for the same reasons which is what you did:mjpls:I always type like this you're not intelligent enough to debate without tryin to deflect by whinin about my "walls of text" and smilies like alot of jackasses do on here. :ufdup:You just thought I'd back down when you rushed in to cape and tried to debate me but now that you can't properly refute what I'm sayin you tryna change the argument, you didn't expect me to come back at you like this and break down your stupidity but that's what I do when retards quote me wit bullshyt like you did.

R&B artists are black for the most part Christina's a white bytch usin black culture for $ which is the whole point, sayin "blacks do it too" is a weak excuse to defend her and is also somethin cacs and c00ns always say.:cacjordan: Back To Basics isn't Hip Hop at all its Pop Jazz and Blues usin the term "sonically" is a way to claim its one thing when it really isn't cats throw that term around all the time to basically say "this is how it sounds to me", Stripped had far more Hip Hop/R&B influence cause it was literally Hip Hop/R&B no bullshyt terms like "sonically" needed to describe it she had rappers on the album for goodness sake.:comeon: That watered down "Hip Hop" that you think of ain't Hip Hop at all thats the white bread "Hip Pop" version which is really just pop wit a little urban influence, :stopitslime:the Jazz and Blues homage on Back To Basics were in the music too fool Ain't No Other Man for instance was Jazz Blues and Soul you could hear Jazz instruments in the song she had a Jazz band backin her when she played live and the whole 9.

I didn't generalize shyt thats another term you usin to play semantics in order to keep from admittin the truth about things, whinin about someone usin "generalizations" is PC bullshyt I'm keepin it real most of her fans are clearly white and you admitted you bump all her albums and are in here runnin down all the different songs from multiple albums. I already told you I don't bump her music I said I heard the Bionic album when it first came out cause it was her attempt at copyin Lady Gaga and I do fukk wit Gaga:yeshrug:and I called her "Xtina" sarcastically in the context of sayin you were stannin her knowin yall stans call her that (another example of you havin shytty readin comprehension:francis:), you not slick tryna project your stannin onto me cac you've all but said you a white boy and judgin from you callin me a "white female" I guess you must be a woman yourself since you projectin here.:jbhmm: That explains why you got so emotional runnin in to cape and bytch at me over callin out your pop idol, at least you bein a white girl is better than bein a black fakkit.:scust:

Im telling you, chicks were listening to that song in the hood. I heard it all of the time:francis:
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nikkas really having in-depth discussions about christina aguilera....
This cac is capin hard defendin her culture vulture ass I'm just pointin out how she strategically used black folks for album sales but they ain't tryna hear nothin negative about they white queen.:scusthov:
 

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That first song was off Back To Basics (her very next album) she was makin songs in the style of her first album that joint is like the only one on the album wit the "urban" style, and Bionic as the cover shows was her tryna copy Lady Gaga who does some urban shyt herself most of that album was electropop but figures you'd single out the few that had R&B influences.:stopitslime: None of those songs are as "urban" as the ones from Stripped

and pop is mostly white the majority of Christina's fans are white and most bytches makin pop are white girls ain't no nikkas listenin to "Urban Pop".

but most pop is white as are most pop fans which is what I pointed out (you tryna deny that like the black community largely bumps pop on the regular just proves how out of touch you are wit black people:patrice:

most of her fans are clearly white and you admitted you bump all her albums and are in here runnin down all the different songs from multiple albums

I heard the Bionic album when it first came out cause it was her attempt at copyin Lady Gaga and I do fukk wit Gaga:yeshrug:and I called her "Xtina" sarcastically in the context of sayin you were stannin her knowin yall stans call her that (another example of you havin shytty readin comprehension

^^^Brehs, this is where generalizations gets you. This clown pretty much exposed herself as a white female posing as Black on a message board with her own words. Dumbest, most trash poster to ever grace The Coli and that's actually saying a lot.
 
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Pink pissed me off wit that shyt but Christina actually came out on some pop shyt first and got more edgy later. Then the public started shytting on her for it. fukk Pink forever tho. That bytch presented herself to LA Reid as an RnB artist. He blew this bytch up and then she turned around and lied on him talkin bout he forced that image on her.

That happened for real? :what:

Receipts please. Not that it would surprise me tho.

fukk that broad. True sense of the term "culture vulture".
 

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That happened for real? :what:

Receipts please. Not that it would surprise me tho.

fukk that broad. True sense of the term "culture vulture".
Yea bro. Just look at her first album. And then check the singles for the second album. She not only switched. She villainized LA Reid n them after they gave her a shot.
 

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Yea bro. Just look at her first album. And then check the singles for the second album. She not only switched. She villainized LA Reid n them after they gave her a shot.

I know about her switch up, i said it myself in this thread. Always was obvious she was fake from the jump. But the LA Reid part i never knew.
 

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^^^Brehs, this is where generalizations gets you. This clown pretty much exposed herself as a white female posing as Black on a message board with her own words. Dumbest, most trash poster to ever grace The Coli and that's actually saying a lot.
:dahell:Those posts highlight me exposin YOU as bein a cac female Christina Aguilera fan, I said in those posts that I only heard the Bionic album when it first came out so that don't make me a white female fan of hers.:snoop: THAT'S where your shytty readin comprehension gets you cause you just proved my point but you too stupid to realize it, you single out excerpts of my different posts where I was callin out your stannin and try to spin it to deflect your cac bytch identity onto me when all it does is point out things I said that ethered you.

:ufdup:Its plenty known straight black men on here who admit they fukk wit Lady Gaga too so don't even try that, you clearly can't refute all the shyt I said which is why you givin up and are tryna change the focus and settin up straw man arguments. Talk about the most trash poster to ever grace The Coli when you're him brehs:mjlol:and you obviously butthurt that your attempt at capin for the white girl failed and you lost the debate so you resortin to these feeble passive aggressive disses outta anger like a true bytch.:umad:
 

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anecdotal but as an equal opportunity socializer I must confess that I ventured into many a white club where the aforementioned artists were played as a misconstrued attempt at spicing up the music selection. (to accommodate the few black guys in the club)
Genie in a bottle was the only song that black people deigned to acknowledge :blessed:
I still bump it :mjcry:
 
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