I just had a rather extensive conversation with a Satanist at Tam's Burgers.

[Texasdymond]

So he used the Bible to help prove his point against God??? Then said the devil doesn't exist? ??

Sounds like Satan to me....Satan used the word of God to tempt Jesus in the wilderness.

Looks like Satan is still doing a great job of deceiving peope into thinking he's a joke and that God isn't real.

 

[MufasaChoppa]

Tryna think...
I don't remember him saying that. But he also never really said that Satan was 'good' either. He was just giving his perspective on who was right/wrong in their falling out.

To be honest, if he had started talking like "Have you accepted our dark lord and master into your soul" or something I woulda been like
but he was more just recapping events from the bible and adding his/their take.

I didn't know he was a satanist til several minutes in.
See, my name is Michael. So when I walked into the food place the cashier was like "What up Mike" and then immediately the satanist dude turned around and was like thats a powerful name. And I was like yeah, Michael was the archangel that cast Satan out of heaven. But that was the wrong thing to say cause he immediately started going in aboit how Satan got a bad wrap

 

[notPsychosiz]

So he used the Bible to help prove his point against God??? Then said the devil doesn't exist? ??

Sounds like Satan to me....Satan used the word of God to tempt Jesus in the wilderness.

Looks like Satan is still doing a great job of deceiving peope into thinking he's a joke and that God isn't real.

I should of asked him how many satanists owned slaves.
Cause I already know how rampant it was amongst Christians.

But lemme guess... thats the devil tricking me right?

 

[notPsychosiz]

Wait, if thecoli theories are correct then you mean he was actualy the devil and cause my name is Michael I was supposed to cast him out of Tam's Burgers?

 

[thatdude954]

So god is evil?

So he used the Bible to help prove his point against God??? Then said the devil doesn't exist? ??

Sounds like Satan to me....Satan used the word of God to tempt Jesus in the wilderness.

Looks like Satan is still doing a great job of deceiving peope into thinking he's a joke and that God isn't real.

From something im reading now:

God is good. Created all and brought us happiness but he kept us ignorant. Lucifer is the opposite of God. He brought people choice but deceives and leads to pain.

@notPsychosiz check the link posted. its an interesting read.

 

[Charlie Hustle]

Satanist: We had this dude named...uh Broly.

 

[Mowgli]

Better say a prayer tonight. A demon followed you home

Devil worshippers are fukking idiots bruh. How you gonna be a human being and worship entitites that hate your guts. God said bow down to US, human beings and angels said fukk outta here and God said

, but here comes some devil worshipper going against Gods claim of human supremacy over angels to say, nah nah they they best. Devil worshippers are sellouts and they will all die.

 

[MufasaChoppa]

Wait, if thecoli theories are correct then you mean he was actualy the devil and cause my name is Michael I was supposed to cast him out of Tam's Burgers?

Or maybe you're the devil and you don't know it yet, Michael

 

[Texasdymond]

I should of asked him how many satanists owned slaves.
Cause I already know how rampant it was amongst Christians.

But lemme guess... thats the devil tricking me right?

People twist the Bible to benefit their own selfish desires. Slave owners were no different-that's what they did...twisted the Word to benefit themselves.

But man's evilness does not negate the Word of God. Never has, never will.

 

[notPsychosiz]

From something im reading now:

God is good. Created all and brought us happiness but he kept us ignorant. Lucifer is the opposite of God. He brought people choice but deceives and leads to pain.

@notPsychosiz check the link posted. its an interesting read.

Wait tho... isn't keeping someone ignorant a form of deception?

Also, since when is keeping a person ignorant good?
If I have a kid and keep it locked in the house with no knowledge of the outside world, even if I feed it and raise it and provide for it, the general consensus would be that I'm a piece of shyt. There would be a 5-star plat thread BLACKMAN KEEPS DAUGHTER LOCKED IN HOUSE.. but its good when a god or angel does it?

Why?

 

[Taadow]

Anyway, he said alot of stuff. Some of the things he was stressing was that there no such thing as a devil or a demon.

Of course. lol

Satan was refereed to as an angel as were all the angels that agreed with Satan.

This is true.
But "angel" doesn't necessarily imply goodness. Those angels with Satan are called "wicked angels".

When they had a falling out with the main leader angel aka god, thats when all of a sudden now they weren't angels anymore just because they disagreed. And he said something I already knew but never considered really... that only a third of the angels sided with god in the dispute, so most of them 2/3rds (66%) did not. 1/3 sided with god, 1/3 sided with Satan, then 1/3 stayed neutral cause later when god won the fight with Satan, god went back and punished the 1/3 that stayed neutral.

This is incorrect.

1. The Bible is an eastern book, so you have to examine the verbiage they use in the original languages it is written.
In those times, "a third" of something was used figuratively to mean "a large portion" or anything. So the exact number of angels
who sided with Satan is not given.

2. By that dudes' own definition and what he says the Bible says (which is true), those angels who side with Satan are still "angels".
So it's not that "they weren't angels anymore" (sidebar: all "angel" means is "messenger") - they choose to be angels for another side.

3. The aforementioned angels who switched sides switched sides not because they disagreed - but because of actions they took
which were counter to the "Main Leader Angel aka God"...which is covered in the next point.

Then later, god casts out even more angels that simply refuse to obey him and would rather fukk earth broads and party.

This is incorrect. This event did not happen later, this is actually the first "third" mentioned in the Bible record of renegade angels.

I knew that, but never thought about an important piece there til he framed it this way but Satan had no influence over these later angels. He wasn't in heaven, didn't have contact with them anymore, so a whole new batch then decided independent from Satan that god was full of shyt.

This is incorrect.

1. Satan, even after rebellion, still had access to heaven.
The very beginning of the book of Job clearly states that "God" had a day where he met with the angels and Satan came in to answer for
what he had been up (like all the other angels), which is when he challenged God about Job.

2. Also, this "batch" of angels did not decide that God was "full of shyt"...they just decided that they would rather be doing something else
than being servants for him, just like us humans have the right to do.

You can see this when much later Jesus confronted demons who were possessing a man, and the demons essentially said.
"Jesus, don't be a hater - let us have our fun...you know it's not time for us to be dealt with yet..." Such is all that these angels have
in their corner; the fact that they can do what they want until it's time for them to get dealt with (again - just like us humans).

That is important because Satan is propped up as the reason for all the bad things that happen and the reason for people going against god, but it turns out that like at least 70% of angels (the 33% that sided with Satan, the 33% that stayed neutral, and the ones that later just called in sick for what god wanted them to do equal at least another 3%) weren't really sold on the idea that god even knew what he hell he was talking about.

...and here's the thing. If you read the Bible, then Satan is still "the reason for all the bad things that happen and the reason for PEOPLE going against
God" - even by his (or "their") definition.

Like he told you, Satan didn't tell Eve what to do - he just gave her information...
...but it was misinformation. Just like that dude was kickin'.



sidebar: I miss Tams.

 

[thatdude954]

Wait tho... isn't keeping someone ignorant a form of deception?

Also, since when is keeping a person ignorant good?
If I have a kid and keep it locked in the house with no knowledge of the outside world, even if I feed it and raise it and provide for it, the general consensus would be that I'm a piece of shyt. There would be a 5-star plat thread BLACKMAN KEEPS DAUGHTER LOCKED IN HOUSE.. but its good when a god or angel does it?

Why?

I merely presented you the information on what I read in the article, hopefully my summary is accurate.

In your scenario, you would be wrong and a scumbag father but there is a difference. You gave her no choice. You would have to tell her to never open the front door but you would still be wrong.

Idk the thought process of a diety.

From the article: God gave us everything we wanted in Eden so God thought Adam and Eve wouldn't have a reason to go against God's will.
Lucifer says that we don't love god only obey him because we have to and proposes a challenge. God accepts and Lucifer creates temptation. God trusted that Adam and Eve would resist temptation so much that God allowed them the choice to make bad decisions and go against God's laws. God did this by allowing the apple to exist and allowing Adam and Eve to choose whether or not to eat the apple.

Why cant we live in paradise (Eden) with free choice (knowledge)? Only reason I could think of is that God must know people would do whatever they want even if its against his will (like how alot of people live now).

So many questions man...
Is it really eden//heaven if you cant do what you want?

@Taadow Does the bible say why God didn't want us to acquire knowledge (eating the apple) or was it just based off principle of disobeying?
Did Adam and Eve think it was a regular apple or were they told its power?
Could you say that God was tempted to play a game with Adam and Eve as pawns? Why would God even entertain Lucifer? How could he not predict the outcome?

 

[SemiEnlightenedBum]

the apple in the garden of דֶן) twas just a forewarning of StEVEJobs,Apple,their(and cloud)being the encyclopedia of all knowledge..why their logo has the apple bitten

I-Everything=lluminazi

your first sin as a humanoid twas coming back to Earth continuously for this Epoch/Yuga,if you keep coming back you are indulging in the ways of man and not the Grand Architect G-d...you enjoy the filth

this being your last incarnation you can/need to cleanse your aura and get ready for the mothership&return of the Divine Archangels Nephilim's and such..

Be In This Whirld,But Don't Be Of This Whirld

 

[SwagmundFreud]

I have a copy of the satanic bible, it's worth a read actually

 

[AFRAM GLORY]

So he used the Bible to help prove his point against God??? Then said the devil doesn't exist? ??

Sounds like Satan to me....Satan used the word of God to tempt Jesus in the wilderness.

Looks like Satan is still doing a great job of deceiving peope into thinking he's a joke and that God isn't real.

Facts.

Father of all lies and still has his people believing he's an angel when he's actually a cherubim