I know PS4 won, but... :lol:

[Smooth3d]

More info on vgcharts:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VG_Chartz

The VGChartz Network is a network of five video game websites - VGChartz, gamrFeed, gamrReview, gamrTV and gamrConnect.VGChartz itself sits at the centre of the VGChartz Network and is a video game sales tracking website that provides weekly sales figures ofconsole software and hardware by region. The site was launched in June 2005 and is owned by Brett Walton.[1][2] Employing ten people,[3]VGChartz provides tools for worldwide data analysis and regular worldwide written analysis of the data it provides.

VGChartz provides tools for data analysis and charting and regular written analysis of the data referencing major news in the video gaming industry. Sales figures on VGChartz are based on estimates extrapolated from small retail samples.[4] While offering some information about their methodology through their website,[5] VGChartz does not publish any sources on how they get their data. Some sites, includingGamasutra and Wired News, have questioned the reliability of the information presented by the site.[4][6] VGChartz has defended the credibility and reliability of its sales data,[7] often comparing their numbers with the ones published by NPD Group,[8] although some charts have been retroactively adjusted to better match NPD's monthly reports.

http://www.examiner.com/article/why-vgchartz-isn-t-considered-reliable

today's era of gaming, the console war has driven industry interest in sales to an all time high. Every month many gamers are sitting on the edge of their seats in anticipation of the release of the NPD Group's numbers. In the meantime, they check sites like VGChartz.com to track the sales figures of each console and game and see how they are doing.

Since its inception in September 2005, VGChartz has not been considered a reliable source of data by many companies and websites because they have never disclosed the sources of their information. If the source is unknown, the legitimacy of that source can't be verified and thus the information can't be trusted. One example is Wikipedia, who themselves are known to be somewhat of an unreliable source to reference, refuses to acknowledge VGChartz as a reliable source and any bit of information citing their website as a reference is promptly removed.

Microsoft's latest financial statement may have shown precisely why VGChartz numbers are not trusted. For its fiscal year ending in June, Microsoft announced that they had sold a total of 41.7 million Xbox 360 consoles worldwide since launch. If one were to compare this figure to the chart found on the main page of VGChartz, you would see it is slightly off. Their graph shows only 41.4 million Xbox 360's have been sold worldwide to date. Clearly, Microsoft's number is the one to be trusted.

Do I need to go on because I can. Google is your friend.

 

[Smooth3d]

I dont really understand this broken English but Im assuming its just more emotions with no facts.

Still waiting on any numbers that contradict the only ones we have so far. You seem to trust NPD, link me to something from them.

That the point we dont have any updated numbers as of yet other then Sony sold 2.1 milli and Ms sold over 2 milli reported from the beginning of Dec. 2013. The latest NPD will be out soon for Dec.. Both have sold more since then but we have to wait and see. When Sony and MS release the numbers.

 

[The Fukin Prophecy]

Here what linked to in the Forbes article about vgcharts shadiness:



It's a good read and gives insight to how vgchartz works, but that why I say what I say. Me and many others have never like them. Yes its dated 2008 but that what Forbes linked to.

http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=18919

Link to original Forbes report:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkai...-week-before-christmas-according-to-vgchartz/

Most of us were around since the SOHH days so I really don't know who you're trying to play with that statement...

You and "many others" aka all xbots stopped liking vgchartz when the numbers started shifting towards SONY's favor...

Nobody ever claimed VGchartz is perfect, they form an estimation through data they receive from sources like NPD whose numbers are also an estimation...lol...Nobody is accurate here yet you seem to only trust American retail numbers though and just like your entire steez its obvious why...NA is the only region MS outsells SONY in...

 

[Smooth3d]

Most of us were around since the SOHH days so I really don't know who you're trying to play with that statement...

You and "many others" aka all xbots stopped liking vgchartz when the numbers started shifting towards SONY's favor...

Nobody ever claimed VGchartz is perfect, they form an estimation through data they receive from sources like NPD whose numbers are also an estimation...lol...Nobody is accurate here yet you seem to only trust American retail numbers though and just like your entire steez its obvious why...NA is the only region MS outsells SONY in...

Dont start twisting it now, Its been proven time and time its bs site. But you want to use it because it fits your agenda. Honest I could give 2 fuks who sold more. But I have a hard time not to call BS when I see it.

 

[Liquid]

I dont really understand this broken English but Im assuming its just more emotions with no facts.

Still waiting on any numbers that contradict the only ones we have so far. You seem to trust NPD, link me to something from them.

lol you waiting for numbers from Smooth 3D is like expecting Canibus to come out with a #1 album at this point in the game.

 

[The Fukin Prophecy]

Dont start twisting it now, Its been proven time and time its bs site. But you want to use it because it fits your agenda. Honest I could give 2 fuks who sold more. But I have a hard time not to call BS when I see it.

You the only one twisting here bruh...

Everything I said in that post you quoted is a fact and I'm not the only one who used to post on the other site so again I don't know who you are trying to play here...

I don't have an agenda in this thread, I brought those numbers up because they're the only ones I could find...I don't plan on owning any of these consoles in the near future...I'm about to drop 2 stacks on a new computer...I have no horse in this console race...

You on the other hand stay rolling through threads like this with the same tired ol baghdad bob everything is good in MS land steez when in reality we all know it isn't...You are full of bullshyt and you won't stop spewing it...

 

[Smooth3d]

lol you waiting for numbers from Smooth 3D is like expecting Canibus to come out with a #1 album at this point in the game.

Did you even the thread or you going do your patented one post Sony stanning and leave.

 

[Smooth3d]

You the only one twisting here bruh...

Everything I said in that post you quoted is a fact and I'm not the only one who used to post on the other site so again I don't know who you are trying to play here...

I don't have an agenda in this thread, I brought those numbers up because they're the only ones I could find...I don't plan on owning any of these consoles in the near future...I'm about to drop 2 stacks on a new computer...I have no horse in this console race...

You on the other hand stay rolling through threads like this with the same tired ol baghdad bob everything is good in MS land steez when in reality we all know it isn't...You are full of bullshyt and you won't stop spewing it...

BS numbers is still BS numbers, your point?

 

[The Fukin Prophecy]

BS numbers is still BS numbers, your point?

You only acknowledge those numbers as bullshyt when they don't fit your agenda...

and im done with this circular conversation that isn't going anywhere...

 

[Smooth3d]

You only acknowledge those numbers as bullshyt when they don't fit your agenda...

and im done with this circular conversation that isn't going anywhere...

Still BS numbers, I provided proof that its a shady website, you still defending them. And yes be done with this. Because BS is always going to be BS.

 

[Liquid]

You only acknowledge those numbers as bullshyt when they don't fit your agenda...

and im done with this circular conversation that isn't going anywhere...

You see it too? Dude is so mad behind that screen breh...any other topic that comes off as rumor he comes running to the Arcadium and tries to pass it off like he is just posting the news from an "unbiased" position.

 

[GoddamnyamanProf]

Microsoft's latest financial statement may have shown precisely why VGChartz numbers are not trusted. For its fiscal year ending in June, Microsoft announced that they had sold a total of 41.7 million Xbox 360 consoles worldwide since launch. If one were to compare this figure to the chart found on the main page of VGChartz, you would see it is slightly off. Their graph shows only 41.4 million Xbox 360's have been sold worldwide to date. Clearly, Microsoft's number is the one to be trusted.

That the point we dont have any updated numbers as of yet other then Sony sold 2.1 milli and Ms sold over 2 milli reported from the beginning of Dec. 2013. The latest NPD will be out soon for Dec.. Both have sold more since then but we have to wait and see. When Sony and MS release the numbers.

Do I have to explain why sales numbers from the competing companies themselves might not be as reputable as from a 3rd party source with no bias whose entire existence is to track everyone's sales?

This shyt is incredible lol.

 

[GoddamnyamanProf]

Still BS numbers, I provided proof that its a shady website.

You posted a nerd's blog post with the same asinine logic as your own.

 

[Optimus Prime]

so ~80 million is not BS but ~81 million is BS? I don't get it that is pretty much the same number. I could see if there was really only ~70 or maybe ~75 PS3s sold but the argument over probably less than the margin of error...

 

[Smooth3d]

You see it too? Dude is so mad behind that screen breh...any other topic that comes off as rumor he comes running to the Arcadium and tries to pass it off like he is just posting the news from an "unbiased" position.

@Liquid You are full of it, don't act you know me. I call out BS period. As I said before I could give two fukks who sales more but I call out BS when i see it.

This shyt is incredible lol.

So dont trust manufacture numbers because they wouldn't know what their product have sold? Damn you special. But trust a shady website huh?

You posted a nerd's blog post with the same asinine logic as your own.

I posted website referenced from the Forbes report.