I know Russell Wilson only been in the league for 8 seasons and only has 1 ring...

[Bboystyle]

I hope folks aren't using passing yards and TDs thrown as some sort of metric when basing judgment.
With the exception of recent years he's always been in a run heavy offense.
Him and Rogers are 1 and 2 all time QBR.
There isn't a thing in the game Rogers has done that Russ can't.
While playing behind power forwards, converted D-linemen and throwing to WR's that otherwise wouldn't be starting elsewhere.







Besides run a play at the 1 yard line his coach called that shell shocked everybody and workhorse said to roll with and fail.
There you go @Bboystylez

The fukk u @ing me for

 

[bangbreh]

The fukk u @ing me for

I ain't gonna say it twice

 

[Bboystyle]

I ain't gonna say it twice

Again, why the fukk u @ing me for

 

[murksiderock]

Peyton manning is the GOAT regular season QB. Dude was avg as fukk in the playoffs and down right garbage in his last SB run. What does that say about your eye test?

I said in my post that Peyton's postseason shakiness is what drops him down the All-Time list...

Because otherwise, it isnt close between he and Rodgers. Let's not pretend Rodgers has this stellar postseason record himself----->he doesn't have the meltdowns Peyton had (almost no one does)...

Peak-for-peak, prime-for-prime, I'd take Peyton over almost anyone...

YOU said he's the best QB YOU ever saw and started watching the NFL in 99. That's all that needs to be said. You did not watch during the golden era of QBs. The league has changed a lot in the last 25 years and you wouldn't even know it.

"Golden era of quarterbacking", here we go with this get off my lawn shyt lmao...

I love talking about any era of football. Don't be crazy, of course I know the game has changed because stylistically the game I'm watching in '19 isn't the same game I was watching in '99 in a number of ways. Sports evolve each era, don't even try to act like whatever era you think was the "golden era", there aren't people older than you who would say the era of Unitas, Starr, Tarkenton, etc was a better era because STYLISTICALLY it was a different game than the "golden era" you're trying to use to shyt on the last two decades...

Let's not pretend the last 20 years haven't produce some GOATs. We can talk about the "whys", but All-Time great players would translate to any era...

How are Rodgers and Brees vastly superior to Wilson?

They aren't. The biggest advantage they have is time. We've been watching them longer so we have a larger reference point of their accomplishments, but when you actually recall their first 8 years or break then down either by results or statistically, it invalidates any claim that Rodgers or Brees were "vastly" anything compared to Russ...

 

[Bboystyle]

I said in my post that Peyton's postseason shakiness is what drops him down the All-Time list...

Because otherwise, it isnt close between he and Rodgers. Let's not pretend Rodgers has this stellar postseason record himself----->he doesn't have the meltdowns Peyton had (almost no one does)...

Peak-for-peak, prime-for-prime, I'd take Peyton over almost anyone...



"Golden era of quarterbacking", here we go with this get off my lawn shyt lmao...

I love talking about any era of football. Don't be crazy, of course I know the game has changed because stylistically the game I'm watching in '19 isn't the same game I was watching in '99 in a number of ways. Sports evolve each era, don't even try to act like whatever era you think was the "golden era", there aren't people older than you who would say the era of Unitas, Starr, Tarkenton, etc was a better era because STYLISTICALLY it was a different game than the "golden era" you're trying to use to shyt on the last two decades...

Let's not pretend the last 20 years haven't produce some GOATs. We can talk about the "whys", but All-Time great players would translate to any era...



They aren't. The biggest advantage they have is time. We've been watching them longer so we have a larger reference point of their accomplishments, but when you actually recall their first 8 years or break then down either by results or statistically, it invalidates any claim that Rodgers or Brees were "vastly" anything compared to Russ...

Im mot talking about record im talking about performance. Manning in the playoff was avg. as fukk. Winning games isnt a QB stat so records mean fukk all.

Rodgers playoff performances are on par for him. His playoff record(9-7) is due to having a shytty defense his whole career something russ never had to deal with up until this year and even then they arent even close to being as bad as those Packers defenses.

 

[kej718]

Best Qb you’ve ever seen? Lol Did you miss Aaron Rodgers games?

Since 2012 when Russ was in the league
Games (G)
Aaron Rodgers 108
Russell Wilson 123

Wins as Starter
Aaron Rodgers 68
Russell Wilson 84

Winning Percentage
Aaron Rodgers .634%
Russell Wilson .687%

Pass Completions (Cmp)
Aaron Rodgers 2,445
Russell Wilson 2,332

Touchdown Passes (TD)
Aaron Rodgers 228
Russell Wilson 220

Game Winning Drives (GWD)
Aaron Rodgers 17
Russell Wilson 32 (Best one was probably against the Packers)

Yards Gained per Pass Completion (Y/C)
Aaron Rodgers 11.7
Russell Wilson 12.2

Rushing Yards (Yds)
Aaron Rodgers 1,902
Russell Wilson 3,922

QB Rating (Rate)
Aaron Rodgers 102.5
Russell Wilson 101.5

2 areas where Russ stands out over most QB's is Games played (Availability) and Game winning drives (Almost double what Rodgers has). Imagine what Russ could do with a top rated Offensive line.
He never had a losing season in 8 years
Never hurt with a trash Offensive line
Game winning drives
Dual threat.
Makes his guys better Dissley wasn't expected to put up those numbers when they drafted him (Their current Tight End Jacob Hollister was on the Patriots practice squad a few months ago).

 

[Guile]

People seem to forget that Wilson's scouting report coming out of college was that he could do everything at a high level (they was even complimenting his mental acuity ). The reason he fell out of the first round was because he was a inch too small for myopic scouts. If he wasn't a rd round pick people would have no issue comparing him to Rodgers and Brees(almost a 1st roun pick).

 

[Bboystyle]

Since 2012 when Russ was in the league
Games (G)
Aaron Rodgers 108
Russell Wilson 123

Wins as Starter
Aaron Rodgers 68
Russell Wilson 84

Winning Percentage
Aaron Rodgers .634%
Russell Wilson .687%

Pass Completions (Cmp)
Aaron Rodgers 2,445
Russell Wilson 2,332

Touchdown Passes (TD)
Aaron Rodgers 228
Russell Wilson 220

Game Winning Drives (GWD)
Aaron Rodgers 17
Russell Wilson 32 (Best one was probably against the Packers)

Yards Gained per Pass Completion (Y/C)
Aaron Rodgers 11.7
Russell Wilson 12.2

Rushing Yards (Yds)
Aaron Rodgers 1,902
Russell Wilson 3,922

QB Rating (Rate)
Aaron Rodgers 102.5
Russell Wilson 101.5

2 areas where Russ stands out over most QB's is Games played (Availability) and Game winning drives (Almost double what Rodgers has). Imagine what Russ could do with a top rated Offensive line.
He never had a losing season in 8 years
Never hurt with a trash Offensive line
Game winning drives
Dual threat.
Makes his guys better Dissley wasn't expected to put up those numbers when they drafted him (Their current Tight End Jacob Hollister was on the Patriots practice squad a few months ago).

Game winning drives and wins has alot to do with defenses. I doubt Russ even makes the NFC ship game with the defenses Rodgers has had. He had to score 30+ almost every game and still lost.

Edit: this nikka put rushing yards but leaves out passing.

Shows u Rodgers did more in less games

 

[kej718]

Russ needs to win another ring so people can stop talking about that interception.

I get they should have gave the ball to Lynch (They did the plays prior).
I still think it was on the coach and the receiver. It just seemed like Butler wanted it more. (The ball could have at least been batted down).
At the very least the ball should have been thrown to Lynch, or he should have been in the back field that play.

Anyway If Russ some how won it this year he would have 1 of the greatest years ever. His soccer team that he is a part owner of won their championship this season. Imagine if he won the Superbowl ? MVP this year too. They have a great front office too so as long as he is healthy they will always have a chance to get to the playoffs.

 

[kej718]

Russell Wilson has the most wins by a quarterback in his first seven seasons in NFL history. Wilson is one of five quarterbacks with 75 or more wins in any seven-season span of a career. Tom Brady is the only player who has managed to do this twice.

Russell Wilson has the 2nd-highest passing touchdown percentage in the Super Bowl era (minimum 3,000 attempts). Out of 3,291 attempts, Russell has thrown 196 touchdowns. His most productive year came in 2018, where he had a touchdown percentage of 8.2% (35 touchdowns, 427 attempts).

Russell Wilson has the 2nd-highest career passer rating (100.3) in NFL history. The only player to top Wilson is Aaron Rodgers who has a career passer rating of 103.1. Wilson's highest single game passer rating came in 2018 against the Detroit Lions where he recorded a perfect 158.3 passer rating.

Russell Wilson is tied for the most 4th-quarter comebacks (21) and game-winning drives (27) since entering the league in 2012, including postseason. One of his most memorable 4th-quarter comebacks happened in the 2014 postseason. Down 7-19 in the fourth quarter, the Seahawks came back to beat the Packers in overtime and clinch the NFC Championship.

Russell Wilson has the highest 4th-quarter passer rating (109.6) since 1991 among quarterbacks with 500 or more attempts. In 2017, Wilson finished the season with a 134.1 4th-quarter passer rating.

The Seahawks have a +269 point differential in the fourth quarter since 2012, the best in the NFL.

/ Thread

OP said "He the 1st QB that I would choose to win a game if my life depended on it."

Stats back him up.

 

[murksiderock]

Im mot talking about record im talking about performance. Manning in the playoff was avg. as fukk. Winning games isnt a QB stat so records mean fukk all.

Rodgers playoff performances are on par for him. His playoff record(9-7) is due to having a shytty defense his whole career something russ never had to deal with up until this year and even then they arent even close to being as bad as those Packers defenses.

Rodgers was the leader of a 15-1 team that went one and done in the playoffs with a massive face plant as the overwhelming Super Bowl favorite...

He's also the leader of an epic meltdown in the NFC Championship Game that his team was up 16-0 and still up two scores with 5 minutes left. He played like absolute garbage again...

Neither of those two games was his defense playing badly. He's had a lot more assistance from that side of the ball than his Stan Club give credit for...

So let's not talk about Peyton in the playoffs unless we're giving equal energy to Rodgers, again, it's not like he has this stellar playoff resume himself. He's lost almost as many playoff games as he's won, he's got a losing record in the NCCCG, and those two losses in particular I just mentioned, he had as much to do with those losses as anybody else...

Manning was often average in the playoffs, no argument from me there. But career-to-career he's better than Rodgers...

Regarding Rodgers and Wilson, again I'm okay with throwing out W/L record. So what's left over is a stronger arm for Peak Rodgers. Other than that? He hasn't done anything on the field Wilson can't do...

 

[kej718]

Game winning drives and wins has alot to do with defenses. I doubt Russ even makes the NFC ship game with the defenses Rodgers has had. He had to score 30+ almost every game and still lost.

Edit: this nikka put rushing yards but leaves out passing.

Shows u Rodgers did more in less games

Rodgers would be on IR every season with some of the Offensive lines Russ has had to play with.

 

[Bboystyle]

Rodgers would be on IR every season with some of the Offensive lines Russ has had to play with.

Lmao. Like rodgers has had good lines. Man yall silly as fukk in here. Rodgers has just as bad if not worse lines and u can check PFF for that stat

 

[Bboystyle]

Rodgers was the leader of a 15-1 team that went one and done in the playoffs with a massive face plant as the overwhelming Super Bowl favorite...

He's also the leader of an epic meltdown in the NFC Championship Game that his team was up 16-0 and still up two scores with 5 minutes left. He played like absolute garbage again...

Neither of those two games was his defense playing badly. He's had a lot more assistance from that side of the ball than his Stan Club give credit for...

So let's not talk about Peyton in the playoffs unless we're giving equal energy to Rodgers, again, it's not like he has this stellar playoff resume himself. He's lost almost as many playoff games as he's won, he's got a losing record in the NCCCG, and those two losses in particular I just mentioned, he had as much to do with those losses as anybody else...

Manning was often average in the playoffs, no argument from me there. But career-to-career he's better than Rodgers...

Regarding Rodgers and Wilson, again I'm okay with throwing out W/L record. So what's left over is a stronger arm for Peak Rodgers. Other than that? He hasn't done anything on the field Wilson can't do...

15-1 was due to him and the offense, the same offense that decided to turn into dog shyt with 12 drops vs the Giants and his defense allowed 37 points. Try again

U saying hes the leader of the nfc ship choke job has fukk all to do with him. That was on the team and 3 choke jobs that had nothing to do with him. Wilson played like dog shyt and threw 4 ints and still won. Why? Because his team didnt choke. Try again


U keep saying take out wins and losses yet u keep using them against rodgers

Tell me how many times did Wilson's D allow more then 30+ in the playoffs? Ill wait

 

[Bboystyle]

Rodgers was the leader of a 15-1 team that went one and done in the playoffs with a massive face plant as the overwhelming Super Bowl favorite...

He's also the leader of an epic meltdown in the NFC Championship Game that his team was up 16-0 and still up two scores with 5 minutes left. He played like absolute garbage again...

Neither of those two games was his defense playing badly. He's had a lot more assistance from that side of the ball than his Stan Club give credit for...

So let's not talk about Peyton in the playoffs unless we're giving equal energy to Rodgers, again, it's not like he has this stellar playoff resume himself. He's lost almost as many playoff games as he's won, he's got a losing record in the NCCCG, and those two losses in particular I just mentioned, he had as much to do with those losses as anybody else...

Manning was often average in the playoffs, no argument from me there. But career-to-career he's better than Rodgers...

Regarding Rodgers and Wilson, again I'm okay with throwing out W/L record. So what's left over is a stronger arm for Peak Rodgers. Other than that? He hasn't done anything on the field Wilson can't do...

Really? Rodgers makes throws others cant on a consistent basis while Wilson can turn into a INT machine. Your eye test sure is looking funny in the light