I'm negging OP and any idiot who shyts on Penny. fukkers must be millennials or some shyt next y'all gonna say Hakeem Olajuwon was a good role player or some shyt 
I know we love penny hardaway but........
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pierce had a better career, but penny had a way higher ceiling
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No he wasn't.
Only rarely mentioned if this board is the only place you discuss basketball at. Hill is THE most popular what if story despite being 27 years old with 6 years of experience at the time he got injured. We likely already saw his prime, and it wasn't "LeBron before LeBron" that so many hyperbolize.
It's also not overrating a player to mention them a lot. It would be overrating to call Penny something he wasn't, and besides that one guy who said he was better than LeBron (everyone disagred) the opinions were on the money for the most part.
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revan
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Since when is 21 points and 7 assists bad? He was a dynamic player, he could very well have blossomed into a 25/10 guy. I've never seen anyone say he was Jordan caliber tbh.
Grant Hill was better, and had more potential. Grant Hill's feet and ankles robbed us of a truly great player.
26/7/5 on nearly 50% shooting before his body failed.
That being said, this era saw a couple of stars stolen from them, plus a super duo (that hill/tmac team should have been incredibly fun to watch)
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I said this in a few other Penny threads, but as nice as he was, I think he had already peaked. Remember, they moved him to the 2, and when they did that, eliminated a lot of what made him effective. But I will say that Penny is probably the best face-up handler I've ever seen. He rarely turned his back to the basket. But still, as an elite PG, averaging 7apg...he was a tad overrated.
But y'all can't really shyt on Grant Hill. Grant hill had 32 or so triple doubles in the first 6 years. He and Kidd were neck-n-neck.
But y'all can't really shyt on Grant Hill. Grant hill had 32 or so triple doubles in the first 6 years. He and Kidd were neck-n-neck.
No doubt he was still making all star games off rep alone although he was barely playing any games.
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See I don't care whether certain player "reached his prime or not" before he got injured. I only care about what he actually did on the court. It's hard to predict how good a player can get because every player career trajoctory is different. Some players are late bloomers, others are early bloomers, some stay basically the same the rest of their careers...etc so nobody knows "what would've happened if..."
I don't know about you, but I don't think calling a very athletic 6'8 small forward who could attack the basket, handle, pass, rebound and defend "lebron before lebron" is too far fetched.
maybe you found their opinions on Penny right on the money because you like him so much that have a picture of him in your avatar?
With that being said, imo Penny was very good all-star level player in his first 3 years, but not a superstar like some coli posters claim.
My nikka thats baloney. 90's squad had waaaay more personality and better game then these Millennial players90's players always get overrated . Who exactly is putting him up there with Mike & them tho
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See I don't care whether certain player "reached his prime or not" before he got injured. I only care about what he actually did on the court. It's hard to predict how good a player can get because every player career trajoctory is different. Some players are late bloomers, others are early bloomers, some stay basically the same the rest of their careers...etc so nobody knows "what would've happened if..."
I don't know about you, but I don't think calling a very athletic 6'8 small forward who could attack the basket, handle, pass, rebound and defend "lebron before lebron" is too far fetched.
maybe you found their opinions on Penny right on the money because you like him so much that have a picture of him in your avatar?
With that being said, imo Penny was very good all-star level player in his first 3 years, but not a superstar like some coli posters claim.
Penny was a superstar on the court.....See this is the problem, you think he's overrated because you don't understand how good he actually was. 1996 Penny Hardaway is one of the best PG's you will ever see in your life. MVP Derrick Rose? Not better than Penny that season.
Penny actually was in his prime already. We just don't know how much better he'd have gotten, but what he did in that span is impressive enough.
Grant Hill was NEVER the dominant scorer that LeBron was. That is what makes LeBron a GOAT level player and separates him from the likes of Scottie Pippen who's nowhere in that discussion. You can't be "LeBron before LeBron" when you were never a dominant scorer and had a spotty postseason resume at best.
I have Penny in my avatar because I appreciate his game. You clearly don't understand it
