I need to address 2 specific talking points about HAKEEM OLAJUWON...

[Ed MOTHEREFFING G]

45 Michael don't count....be serious..

its odd that 45 michael counts when he's dropping 55 in new york but not when he's losing to the magic. Jordan wasn't even close to out of shape then, had plenty of time to get ready for the playoffs etc; they were just outplayed by the magic.

 

[Ed MOTHEREFFING G]

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SEASON TEAM PTS REB AST
84-85 HOU 20.6 11.9 1.4
85-86 HOU 23.5 11.5 2.0
86-87 HOU 23.4 11.4 2.9
87-88 HOU 22.8 12.1 2.1
88-89 HOU 24.8 13.5 1.8
89-90 HOU 24.3 14.0 2.9
90-91 HOU 21.2 13.8 2.3
91-92 HOU 21.6 12.1 2.2
92-93 HOU 26.1 13.0 3.5
93-94 HOU 27.3 11.9 3.6
94-95 HOU 27.8 10.8 3.5
95-96 HOU 26.9 10.9 3.6
96-97 HOU 23.2 9.2 3.0
97-98 HOU 16.4 9.8 3.0
98-99 HOU 18.9 9.6 1.8
99-00 HOU 10.3 6.2 1.4
00-01 HOU 11.9 7.4 1.2
01-02 TOR 7.1 6.0 1.1
TOT 18 yrs 21.8 11.1 2.5


Got to a finals in 86 averaging 23-11

with ralph sampson and john lucas...but he no help

good call though, I didn't intentionally leave out that season. I wouldn't consider it prime hakeem but I hear you

 

[Liquid]

I have to applaud Gizzle with his consistent and motivated efforts to try to convince us on the Coli who believe Hakeem > Shaq

Spoiler: ...

I will still take Dream over Shaq though

 

[Ed MOTHEREFFING G]

Hakeem was my favorite center to watch, skill-wise (1998-2003 Shaq was just more dominant).
But I agree that his mythicism on this forum is unwarranted (almost reminds me of Penny in the old Coli)

very similar.

 

[Juggalo Fred]

Michael PLAYED in 1995 and the Rockets won, so the point is moot. Jordan stans and media types have essentially just acted like Jordan didn't play that year or that it didn't count or some shyt.

yep, that Bulls team NEEDED Rodman to get out of the east

Shaq and Penny were serious that year.....til they ran into Hakeem

 

[superunknown23]

very similar.

Man, Penny was a god in the old Coli (at least his memory was)

 

[Jplaya2023]

What player is in their "prime" in their 2nd and 3rd seasons?

Since him and jordan came in the same draft, was jordan in his prime in 87?

Hakeem's "prime" was from 93-96

In this exercise i'm considering "prime" to be the point where your playing your best basketball and not just basing off of natural age.

 

[Juggalo Fred]

Several people have corrected you on this, yet you refuse to listen.

The rockets were 30-17 before acquiring drexler, and finished the season 16-17

http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/199502140HOU.html

Stop lying B

http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/199502160CHH.html

OWNED

 

[NYC Rebel]

Remember when he decked Kupchak in the 86 Wcf

Checked his ass.

 

[NYC Rebel]

the 95 rockets as a 6th seed beat 4 50 win teams to win a title. This guy just dismisses it like it's nothing.

They beat a combined 6 HOFs on their way to the ship
Stockton
Malone
Barkley
Robinson
Shaq
Penny

in retrospect, the warriors this playoff run has only beaten 1 HOF for their ring
Howard (borderline, will prob make it)
Lebron

and they had HCA every round

Shut up. They came into the playoffs in disarray and the Drexler trade looked like a bust until they got into the playoffs. Your VHS cassettes and datamining has no recollection of it

 

[superunknown23]

Checked his ass.

Akeem used to fight all the time in the 80s. He was wild and always angry at something.
That "quiet muslim" shyt only came after he added the "H" to his first name

 

[Ed MOTHEREFFING G]

What player is in their "prime" in their 2nd and 3rd seasons?

Since him and jordan came in the same draft, was jordan in his prime in 87?

Hakeem's "prime" was from 93-96

In this exercise i'm considering "prime" to be the point where your playing your best basketball and not just basing off of natural age.

I'm talking about physical prime. Because you can move goalposts all over the place to decide when someone is 'in their prime' to be convenient for you discussion. Which you are notorious at...and attempted to do so here.

 

[noodles]

its odd that 45 michael counts when he's dropping 55 in new york but not when he's losing to the magic. Jordan wasn't even close to out of shape then, had plenty of time to get ready for the playoffs etc; they were just outplayed by the magic.

He came back (in a full season) n gave them that work

 

[Gravity]

at the "dream had no help, he won by himself" narratives.

 

[NYC Rebel]

Akeem used to fight all the time in the 80s. He was wild and always angry at something.
That "quiet muslim" shyt only came after he added the "H" to his first name

That niqqa was a wild ass Nigerian.