I never saw a song make oldheads angry like this did when it came out

[DANJ!]

But it never did. That simpler old school Mcing style was still around even when advanced lyricism came along

This is true... it's not like everything flipped from Sugarhill Gang to Rakim overnight. There were rappers in the middle of that, who changed shyt up and then built up to where Rakim and Kane and them started impacting. And even after Rakim and them, there was still stuff that wasn't complex.

Simplicity doesn't always = wack. But sometimes simplicity is just... simple. Like 'Laffy Taffy' and all that type shyt.

 

[DANJ!]

Song was marketed to 12-13 year olds in 2004/5/6 I forget the exact year. Now those kids have grown up, and are trying to rewrite history.

That'd be like me comin' on here talkin' bout "Tootsie Roll" ended the Rakim/Kane/KRS/PE/NWA/etc. era just ridiculous!

 

[TripleAgent]

there were plenty of cheesy beats back then







truly complex rapping took almost 7-10 years to develop within thee scene that we now know as hiphop

Sugarhill Gang were hated by the culture. They are considered the original sellouts. Melle Mel or the cats from the era (save Caz, maybe because he was involved to a degree) will tell you SG was watered down garbage, Rapper's Delight included. It's the label owner's son, his buddy, and a nikka she found who just happened to know some good Caz rhymes to steal.

Not really.

I guess this is the part where you mention Nice & Smooth or some outlier but the average MC in '91 was not rapping as simplistic as '81. So using that as a reason to defend "Laffy Taffy", a song that came out in 2005, is dumb as fukk.

Fred.

Nice And Smooth were considered simple for the time, but would rap circles around these nikkas today, and had WAY more creativity and musicality. No one was mad at them because they were dope.

 

[Jorvan]

The only reason I hated the song was because they played it to death on Atlanta radio stations. Same thing with Crank Dat. shyt was overkill.

 

[hex]

Sugarhill Gang were hated by the culture. They are considered the original sellouts. Melle Mel or the cats from the era (save Caz, maybe because he was involved to a degree) will tell you SG was watered down garbage, Rapper's Delight included. It's the label owner's son, his buddy, and a nikka she found who just happened to know some good Caz rhymes to steal.


Nice And Smooth were considered simple for the time, but would rap circles around these nikkas today, and had WAY more creativity and musicality. No one was mad at them because they were dope.

I know. I already knew where he was going with his post though. Which is why I said Nice & Smooth.

I didn't expect him to counter with Fat Man Scoop and DJ Kool. Which, honestly, nobody in my circle gave a fukk about.

Fred.

 

[xCivicx]

If Fabo came out like 5 years later he would've been huge. Dude was singing about being a drug user in '05 when that type of thing was a no no in hip hop. Fast forward a couple years after Wayne started doing it then it became a trend.

3 6 was doing that in the 90s

 

[FeloniousMonk]

there were plenty of cheesy beats back then






truly complex rapping took almost 7-10 years to develop within thee scene that we now know as hiphop

That's live funk instrumentation.

With rap lyrics.

What makes it cheesy?

 

[threattonature]

Dawg I remember being in middle school when this dropped and I had never heard so many older heads sh*t on one song before this. My pops is an OG hip hop head from it's inception and this song was like hip hop's funeral for him. Wouldn't even let me play it in the car or his speakers in the crib. I remember Ebro saying he wouldn't even let DJs play this when he was PD at Hot97.

It's funny cause before opening the thread the first song that popped into mind was this joint. shyt killed in the club though so I lowkey fukk with it.

 

[KushSkywalker]

Beat is dope tho

 

[Software]

Didn't boondocks parody this song?!


Edit:

They did!

 

[Ziggiy]

Knew what song it was going to be the moment I read the title. I worked for a marketing company at this time and we promoted this song and album for Asylum. I always took the song for what it was. My only thing was having to hear it CONSTANTLY. It stayed on the radio. I don’t remember djs (radio) per se feeling a way about but in general Hip Hop heads were livid. Asylum went crazy with the promotions for them. Tons of cds passed out, posters, flyers and even a promotional dvd with Fabo geeked out his mind. I still had a copy of it up until a few years ago but don’t know what happened to it now. No matter what you personally feel about the song, it defined an era.

An era of stupidity

 

[spliz]

But it never did. That simpler old school Mcing style was still around even when advanced lyricism came along

U fighting a losing battle with this one. A wack song is a wack song. Simple or not. Using tracks from hip hops infant stages ain’t gonna a change a wack song to a good one. Like I said. Betcha Can’t Do It Like Me was dope to me. And was prolly even simpler than Laffy Taffy. From the same group.

 

[spliz]

Not really.

I guess this is the part where you mention Nice & Smooth or some outlier but the average MC in '91 was not rapping as simplistic as '81. So using that as a reason to defend "Laffy Taffy", a song that came out in 2005, is dumb as fukk.

Fred.

And Smooth B wasn’t that simple. It was Greg Nice.

 

[spliz]

that's one example but there are plenty of others but even stuff like Miami Bass (call and response) and stuff like






was closer to OG HipHop than what Rakim did. And who cares if most mc's by the 90s were more advanced than Nice & Smooth? It doesn't negate the fact that it was a style of hiphop; and in this case, THE style of early HipHop. It's like saying New Orleans jazz isn't Jazz because they weren't playing advanced Bebop scales like Charlie Parker

False equivalence fam. Not even the same shyt. Those songs were literally DJ hype songs. Literally MADE by the DJ’s. And guess what? They was DOPE. There was barely even lyrics and tryna rap. Just get the crowd hype. And that shyt never RAN an era. It was looked at for what it was. Either way. It don’t stop Laffy Taffy from being corny. This is the problem. nikkas try to call NYC nikkas biased n all kinda shyt. Because we call some wack shyt wack. Or cause nikkas got booed or some shyt. Guess what? We boo our OWN artists. This city was built off that shyt. Ever seen Showtime at The Apollo? Some of the GREATEST artists of all time got booed there. nikkas dead got so much pride that they cant just look back at some wack shyt and call it wack. nikkas would rather bring up songs from 40 years ago. That’s crazy.

 

[Sonic Boom of the South]

The majority of people thought that shyt was corny as fukk