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Ugo Ogugwa

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Man if you don't make at least 120k STFU giving boys stupid advice about high skilled work being outsourced.
 

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I've been home-based with my current job since I started four years ago. Go back to working in an office? :hhh: Before the lockdown, I could go to the gym during lunch, run an errand or two if I needed to. My manager is cool, if I needed extra time to take care of something and promised to make up the missed time, she was like :manny: as long as the work got done. When my moms was in the hospital a couple years ago, they let me flip my schedule; I would go to the hospital in the morning and stay till 3:00. Get home at 4:00, log on to work till 12:00. It's all about flexibility, which I love.



The only way I would consider going back to an office job, first of all the paper would have to be worth it to give up my current situation, and second of all, the most days in the office I could stomach is two.
What do you do?
 

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and btw- high skilled jobs do get outsourced. This is America. Last year, we had a segment of our IT department (including one of your fellow Naija brehs) replaced by Indians who worked remotely.

And that is what the smart companies do, only allow part of your I.T. department to be outsourced if you are going that route. Usually those jobs are "menial" in a sense and not critical to engineering or operations, and if some of them are important enough you better have an American reviewing everything they do. Those are the ones that will be automated the soonest. Managers, I.T. Architects and senior engineers know they do not know shyt but in most cases they are slightly cheaper than homegrown talent who know what they are worth, and will put up with it to get projects completed for the month/year.
 

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And that is what the smart companies do, only allow part of your I.T. department to be outsourced if you are going that route. Usually those jobs are "menial" in a sense and not critical to engineering or operations, and if some of them are important enough you better have an American reviewing everything they do. Those are the ones that will be automated the soonest. Managers, I.T. Architects and senior engineers know they do not know shyt but in most cases they are slightly cheaper than homegrown talent who know what they are worth, and will put up with it to get projects completed for the month/year.
Not my field so I'll take your word for it. Just sucked seeing some colleagues I was cool with get thrown to the bushes. One breh was a recent grad :francis:
 

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Not my field so I'll take your word for it. Just sucked seeing some colleagues I was cool with get thrown to the bushes. One breh was a recent grad :francis:
It does but if you are good at what you do in I.T. and can prove it, you are good. A lot of companies try to cheap out with H1-B's and spend more money fixing mistakes, re-engineering designs/solutions and recovering from outages. At work out of the 20-30 H1-B's i interacted with in some capacity, only like 4-5 of them were qualified for the position they were in. And usually they would help or do the work of the rest. It is like an accountant having to help people at your same level do their work, and they barely know how to count.
 

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It does but if you are good at what you do in I.T. and can prove it, you are good. A lot of companies try to cheap out with H1-B's and spend more money fixing mistakes, re-engineering designs/solutions and recovering from outages. At work out of the 20-30 H1-B's i interacted with in some capacity, only like 4-5 of them were qualified for the position they were in. And usually they would help or do the work of the rest. It is like an accountant having to help people at your same level do their work, and they barely know how to count.
How do they even make it past the "interview" stage? :merchant:
 

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yup if you can do it from home
sergei, manjeet and them all can do it for 1/4th of the cost.

I used to work at Thomson Reuters years ago and I remember we could work remotely, a few months later suddenly we had to train people in Philippines as they were expanding :mjpls: a few months later half of the staff in canada was laid off
 

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and btw- high skilled jobs do get outsourced. This is America. Last year, we had a segment of our IT department (including one of your fellow Naija brehs) replaced by Indians who worked remotely.

So you're a cashier?
 

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How do they even make it past the "interview" stage? :merchant:
Someone fakes it for them. Usually it is over the phone for in general if it is remote or depending on where the person is. When a bunch get hired it is usually because shyt needs to get done and they have bodies to throw at it. Also it is the setup as well. The H1-B company rarely works with the direct client as well, they are usually subcontracted out by the actual staffer and they do the interview. So after that the U.S. staffing company will vouch for them to the client. Once they get to the job, they send their projects to actual engineers back home that will do the designs and also the implementations. They also clique up at work and find another H1-B or Indian that they trust to help them or outright do their work. And once you are in, people will assume you know what you are doing just because.

And it is fukked up situation because there can be multiple companies getting paid off of the work before they get a penny. One that i am cool with that knows his shyt has 4 layers (staffing companies) in the way of the money they are charging the company for him. So in his case it was H1-B<Indian company< American staffing company #1< American staffing company #2<American staffing company #3. I had only 2 to deal with which was unavoidable given how the company hired contractors at the time. But the client is being billed $120 an hour for each of us, but he is only seeing $30 of it. Not only that he has to pay for everything(Food, Rent, Car), whereas my company paid for everything for awhile, including my moving expenses. A good chunk of the money stays in the Indian company hands because they are sponsoring them for employment, and they know most of them do not want to take the risk to get sent back to India for asking for more money.
 
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