I played in both eras, I played against both of them. Jordan is the #GOAT - Ray Allen

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Damn man, people act like the NBA started in 91 when Jordan won his first title and nothing before that exists hahaha. That's why I can't take a lot of people serious when talking about Sports and music because nothing matter that they haven't seen or heard. I'm a Spurs fan, and a Ginobli fan was talking about Ginobli is all time better than Drexler and Jerry West. Certified bullshyt on the highest level.
 

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Defense is better now then it was in the late 80’s/ early 90’s

Jordan would still get busy and would be arguably the best in the league, but he’s not averaging 45 a game


:mjlol:

you realize how stupid you sound? defense is better now? get da fukoutta here.



So you pick a playoff series against a team that had a DPOY center and one of the best perimeter defenders of all time :mjlol: and at 25 KD still averaged 29 and 9

Kd would destroy anything moving in the 80’s and 90’s him and me would be trading scoring titles

Defense wasn’t tougher, D didn’t get really physical and slow until the mid 90’s you’ll always talk about isiah Thomas averaging 30 but seem to forget that 5’9 160 lbs Michael adams averaged 26


there are plenty of tony allen type back in the day breh. nikkas with a same mentality. they ain't talented on paper. they don't even look all that athletic. but they annoying as fuk. in the crunch time they pride themselves to stop you and out will you. that's the mentality today's players dont have.

if you ever hooped for real you will know these nikkas are out there with a bad breath and they ripe as fuk. every time they come near you they shoot sweat :deadmanny:



Dantley regularly averaged 30 ppg during the 80s (with a skillset that doesn't come close to the likes of LeBron, Curry, Durant etc), and muh'fukkas really believe that MJ was playing during an era with some Medieval-type defenses. I dare folks to watch this clip in its entirety and tell me this ain't some bum ### defense.

This dude was one of the best scorers all throughout the 80s, and defenses were giving him a shooting cushion INSIDE of the arc on the regular. And this is the era y'all wanna crown for its defense?

:picard:



you just exposed yourself. :russ:


you have no idea how good dantley was. he is one of the most under appreciated player of all time. he was not even 6ft 5 full, but he had one of the best post game. he got to the line at will too. go look up word 'crafty' and you will see dantley.

He was basically a scorer version of Charles Barkley without the weight and strength match charles' rebounding ability. dantley is the top 5 SF scorer of all time. if he played today he would be smaller, but smarter melo with harden like ability to get to the line.

simply there's nothing nikkas can do against a nikka who just knows how to score. dantley will shoot around you. do a little hook and just be athletic enough that you can't really block his shot. and he is one of those nikka you think you can beat and you take him lightly but at the end of the game he scored more than you. showing you it ain't never about athleticism.

some nikkas just know how to score.

you sir are exposed.

go keep watching those crossovers. they don't impressive me at all. :mjlol: i believe in simplicity. game is simple.

timmy is a definition of simple


simple always wins. :ahh:
 
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MJ's FG% most probably wouldn't be anywhere near 50, because naturally, he'd be shooting more 3-pointers (thus dropping his FG%, which as I mentioned earlier isn't the best measurement of efficiency), and against better defenses.

Meh. I still think he’d be around 50% in todays game. He was too good around the basket and in the mid range. So maybe his FG drops, but I think he would be a much better 3 point shooter if he played today...we all know he had a great jumpshot...he would most likely have refined and extended it since that’s what today’s game calls for

Lebron has been over 50% 8 out of the past 9yrs....KD has been 50% for the past 6. I can’t see someone with the finishing ability, fundamentals, jumpshot and IQ of an MJ not hovering around that level
 

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Meh. I still think he’d be around 50% in todays game. He was too good around the basket and in the mid range. So maybe his FG drops, but I think he would be a much better 3 point shooter if he played today...we all know he had a great jumpshot...he would most likely have refined and extended it since that’s what today’s game calls for

Lebron has been over 50% 8 out of the past 9yrs....KD has been 50% for the past 6. I can’t see someone with the finishing ability, fundamentals, jumpshot and IQ of an MJ not hovering around that level

MJ will eventually shoot 38% on 3s in today's nba. it just a matter of attempts and practice.

:manny:

and he will finish even higher rate around the basket cuz this league is is devoid of true centers and enforcers
 

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simply there's nothing nikkas can do against a nikka who just knows how to score. dantley will shoot around you. do a little hook and just be athletic enough that you can't really block his shot. and he is one of those nikka you think you can beat and you take him lightly but at the end of the game he scored more than you. showing you it ain't never about athleticism.
:mjlol: I already know rhe stat boy geek youre talki g to without being able to her posts.
 

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How is saying someone would arguably be the best in the game a slight:gucci:
MJ Stan's are insecure as fukk and act like anything short of deifying him is a slight.

What's funny is most sensible and knowledgeable people have him as the GOAT but these dustheads get in their feelings just for people entertaining the discussions.

90% of these debates are MJ Stans spouting off hyperbole and people telling them to slow their roll.
 

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:mjlol: I already know rhe stat boy geek youre talki g to without being able to her posts.
Stats actually favor Adrian Dantley, dude. If somebody just looked at Dantley's BBall Reference numbers without watching games they'd pull away thinking he was the greatest scorer of all time.
 

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Stats actually favor Adrian Dantley, dude. If somebody just looked at Dantley's BBall Reference numbers without watching games they'd pull away thinking he was the greatest scorer of all time.
The fukk does this have to do with what i said?
 
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