I played in both eras, I played against both of them. Jordan is the #GOAT - Ray Allen

[Bigblackted4]

MJ has two seasons with 100 blocks as a 6'6" shooting guard......Bron has zero

True but Rim Protection isn’t just blocking shots

 

[FunkDoc1112]

The fukk does this have to do with what i said?

Because you're trying to drag out the usual anti math stat nerd strawman when that's got shyt to do with the discussion

 

[Gravity]

Because you're trying to drag out the usual anti math stat nerd strawman when that's got shyt to do with the discussion

I havent dragged out shyt. I predicted who a poster was going back n forth with even tho i couldnt actually see the posts.

 

[FunkDoc1112]

jordan averaged 37 a game without shooting 3s. and he did that cuz he averaged 12 FTs a game. do yall really think jordan can't get to the line 3-4 times in this soft hand check less era?

Free throws have been at historical lows for the last 10 years but keep going with that narrative.

It wouldn't kill you guys just to do a rudimentary amount of research before talking about shyt. But then again I know y'all are afraid of math so that might be asking too much

 

[Bigblackted4]

Damn man, people act like the NBA started in 91 when Jordan won his first title and nothing before that exists hahaha. That's why I can't take a lot of people serious when talking about Sports and music because nothing matter that they haven't seen or heard. I'm a Spurs fan, and a Ginobli fan was talking about Ginobli is all time better than Drexler and Jerry West. Certified bullshyt on the highest level.

Smack that man for me next time

 

[Champ_KW]

True but Rim Protection isn’t just blocking shots

Taking charges?? I mean....what else is "rim protection"? You think MJ amassed 100 blocks getting a hand up, tipping, and altering three point shots?

 

[rbksNgirbauds]

There are some bright minds in here. They need to wake up though and find something else to talk about.

This. And I ont even think they realize how bright they are, shyt just be harnessed in all the wrong directions.
World much bigger than just sports, rap, and fukkery

 

[Bigblackted4]

Taking charges?? I mean....what else is "rim protection"? You think MJ amassed 100 blocks getting a hand up, tipping, and altering three point shots?

No discouraging shots and just being able to jump by the rim and make shots difficult. Also Jordan blocked a lot of jump shots too

 

[FunkDoc1112]

When MJ scored his career high of 69 points, he also pulled down 18 boards, 6 assists, 4 steals, and 1 block. When Bron scored his career high of 61, he had 7 boards, 4 assists, ZERO blocks or steals. It's fair to say, when you got the best outta MJ scoring the ball, other areas of his game doesn't suffer. Cause he's a more complete player.

Um, no. Simply cherry picking stats from two individual games accomplishes jack and shyt. Entirely different circumstances, AND MJ's game went to overtime. LeBron has plenty of high scoring games where the rest of his stats didn't suffer either Just last season:

57/11/7/3 steals/2 blocks
46/11/9/3/1
And in the past:
41/16/7/3/3
41/8/11/4/3
47/12/8/1/1
48/10/6/2/2
51/11/8/1/1
40/18/9/2/2

And that's just a small smattering. Whatever argument you made has no weight, especially the way you were tryingt to present it.

 

[FabTrey]

Free throws have been at historical lows for the last 10 years but keep going with that narrative.

It wouldn't kill you guys just to do a rudimentary amount of research before talking about ####. But then again I know y'all are afraid of math so that might be asking too much

westbrook got to the line 10.4 times per game last season. harden got to the line 10.9 times.





here's how young jordan would play in today's league

1. get the ball
2. move the fuk out of way
3. attack the rim

attack, attack, attack.
i'm sure jordan can manage to shoot 3-4 more FTs then russ and harden.

 

[FunkDoc1112]

westbrook got to the line 10.4 times per game last season. harden got to the line 10.9 times.





here's how young jordan would play in today's league

1. get the ball
2. move the fuk out of way
3. attack the rim

attack, attack, attack.
i'm sure jordan can manage to shoot 3-4 more FTs then russ and harden.

MJ's not getting getting that much shots in today's NBA. If Westbrook got 24FGs/10FTAs on the type of team he was on, what the fukk do you think Michael's doing? Especially considering Westbrook plays a full retard attacking style as it is.

The only two 10 FTA guys in the last 5 years were the highest volume scorer and a guy who's entire game is centered around getting to the line. Yet MJ is somehow gonna get 12+ FT's while shooting more threes in a league where the refs are more worried about protecing shooters than attackers? As somebody else already went over:

1) Teams play slower than they did in the 80s
2) Stars play less minutes than in the 80s
3) Defense is better than it was in the 80s
4) Teams don't iso as often they did in the 80s
5) Guys play further from the basket and fouls are called at a far slower rate than in the 80s.

NBA League Averages | Basketball-Reference.com

So explain to me how is MJ gonna shoot at an even higher volume than he did in '87? And please, leave yor mythological comic book discussion points at the door.

 

[Champ_KW]

Um, no. Simply cherry picking stats from two individual games accomplishes jack and shyt. Entirely different circumstances, AND MJ's game went to overtime. LeBron has plenty of high scoring games where the rest of his stats didn't suffer either Just last season:

57/11/7/3 steals/2 blocks
46/11/9/3/1
And in the past:
41/16/7/3/3
41/8/11/4/3
47/12/8/1/1
48/10/6/2/2
51/11/8/1/1
40/18/9/2/2

And that's just a small smattering. Whatever argument you made has no weight, especially the way you were tryingt to present it.

Talk about cherry picking. I literally listed the one game where both players offense was at their career best and went from there. You on the other hand, scoured through many meaningless 40 point games to come back with examples of Bron getting busy. There's literally no common denominator to what you just posted. Do better.

 

[Champ_KW]

No discouraging shots and just being able to jump by the rim and make shots difficult. Also Jordan blocked a lot of jump shots too

Let me get this straight....."just being able to jump by the rim" is something quantifiable to you?

 

[FunkDoc1112]

Talk about cherry picking. I literally listed the one game where both players offense was at their career best and went from there. You on the other hand, scoured through many meaningless 40 point games to come back with examples of Bron getting busy. There's literally no common denominator to what you just posted. Do better.

nikka, the entire purpose of my post was to show you how utterly fukking moronic the argument you were trying to make was. Why are you comparing two individual statlines to make a broad point about somebody's style? You can pull two games to say "MJ can score a lot without his game suffering but LeBron can't," I can pull up games that say the opposite. Cherry picking individual statlines proves NOTHING, especially since the crux of your entire argument is easily disprovable by LeBron statlines that you left out because yet again, you were cherry picking..

 

[Champ_KW]

nikka, the entire purpose of my post was to show you how utterly fukking moronic the argument you were trying to make was. Why are you comparing two individual statlines to make a broad point about somebody's style? You can pull two games to say "MJ can score a lot without his game suffering but LeBron can't," I can pull up games that say the opposite. Cherry picking individual statlines proves NOTHING, especially since the crux of your entire argument is easily disprovable by LeBron statlines that you left out because yet again, you were cherry picking..

See that's where you failed. It's not about "MJ can score a lot....." It's about the ONE night where they were offensively unstoppable and posted their best offensive game of their career, what else did they bring to the table? You're so geared up to defend Bron with random 40 point games, that you couldn't even understand the premise.