I played in both eras, I played against both of them. Jordan is the #GOAT - Ray Allen

[Columbo]

Majority of ex NBA players have said MJ > Bron

Majority of players who have played against Bron and Kobe have said Kobe > Bron.

Yet these Bron stans know better

I wish we could just end it that easily

Mike >Kobe>Bron

Simple math. The amount of hate Kobe gets on here is crazy. I've said it before I can't even complain about the Kobe stan's because there's far more haters. Faggits on here don't even have Kobe top 10 all time

MJ would tell these flaming faggits that they don't know shyt about basketball

 

[Trece]

Was Kobe even mentioned in the conversation

NEGGED

 

[Broke Wave]

KD joins the 73/9 warriors and now he can get buckets with MJ... but just two years ago he couldn’t get buckets over Andre Igoudala and Harrison Barnes in the WCF when it mattered the nikka was looking flustered.

Same thing this year he was getting fukked up by Trevor Ariza putting up hella bricks looking like trash out there for stretches now all of a sudden he’s a better scorer than MJ since he formed the most stacked team of all time.

I fukk wit KD that’s my dude one of the best players of all time but just like how Bron became the GOAT because he made 2 super teams don’t over hype KD because he’s unstoppable with Steph Klay and Dray on the floor.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

LOL because those spurs teams were bums right?

Because Jordan and the rest of 90s players were super saiyans who would roll every team EVER right?

Thats the most annoying thing about Jordan stans. Yes the nikka was good but to think he and the rest of the 90s players were the pinnacle of basketball skill and athleticism is absurd.

Duncan shot 57% in that series, Tony Parker shot 48% and 42% from three, Ginobli shot 50% and 42% from three, Danny Green shot 53% and 45% from three, Kawhi shot 61% and 58% from three, Patty Mills shot 54% and 57% from three, Tiago shot 71%.

Imagine having to face five guys shooting 42% or better from three and the big men are shooting 60% too.

As a team, Spurs shot 56% from two and 47% from three on 24 threes/game. Only turned the ball over 13 times/game. And they were elite on defense too.

MJ never faced an offensive onslaught like that. The best offensive team he played in the Finals was the '93 Suns, who shot 47% from two and 44% from three on just 10 threes/game. And they weren't nearly as good as the Spurs on defense, the West/Barkley/Dumas frontcourt was basically a sieve.


1991 Lakers shot 47% from two and 28% from three on 9 threes/game (and turned the ball over 15 times/game)
1992 Blazers shot 47% from two and 19% from three on 9 threes/game (and turned the ball over 17 times/game)
1996 Sonics shot 49% from two and 31% from three on 17 threes/game (and turned the ball over 16 times/game)
1997 Jazz shot 44% from two and 41% from three on 14 threes/game
1998 Jazz shot 48% from two and 22% from three on 10 threes/game (and turned the ball over 16 times/game)

And Kawhi was a better defensive swingman than anyone the Bulls ever faced. Even at 37 Duncan (who would make another All-Defensive team in 2015 at 38yo) was a better defensive center than anyone the Bulls ever faced in the Finals. Pop was a better coach than anyone the Bulls ever faced in the Finals.

The 2014 Spurs were a far better Finals opponent on both ends than anyone Jordan ever saw and it's not even close.

I think that Jordan is the GOAT. But the mythologizing is dumb. Even the GOAT needed fortuitous circumstances in order to win six Finals, and one of those circumstances was that he always had the better coach, the better sidekick, the better defense, and never faced a truly great team.

 

[ELESDEE616]

I wish we could just end it that easily

Mike >Kobe>Bron

Simple math. The amount of hate Kobe gets on here is crazy. I've said it before I can't even complain about the Kobe stan's because there's far more haters. Faggits on here don't even have Kobe top 10 all time

MJ would tell these flaming faggits that they don't know shyt about basketball

That not math nikka that's an opinion. And my opinion is Kobe was Clyde Drexler with a preference for booty sex with 19 year old white girls

 

[Professor Emeritus]

KD joins the 73/9 warriors and now he can get buckets with MJ... but just two years ago he couldn’t get buckets over Andre Igoudala and Harrison Barnes in the WCF when it mattered the nikka was looking flustered.

Same thing this year he was getting fukked up by Trevor Ariza putting up hella bricks looking like trash out there for stretches now all of a sudden he’s a better scorer than MJ since he formed the most stacked team of all time.

I fukk wit KD that’s my dude one of the best players of all time but just like how Bron became the GOAT because he made 2 super teams don’t over hype KD because he’s unstoppable with Steph Klay and Dray on the floor.

Yeah, Bron's only the GOAT because he beat the Celtics with a team starting Mario Chalmers, Shane Battier, and a rotating platoon of Haslem, Joel Anthony, and Ronnie Turiaf.

Then he cemented it by beating a 73-9 team while starting J.R. Smith, Tristan Thompson, and 35yo Richard Jefferson.

And with Erik Spolstra and Ty Lue as his coaches.

Trying to say that Bron's overhyped because his teams were too good. Name ONE player in the GOAT conversation who took worse teammates/coaches to the ring every time.

 

[Bilz]

I wish we could just end it that easily

Mike >Kobe>Bron

Simple math. The amount of hate Kobe gets on here is crazy. I've said it before I can't even complain about the Kobe stan's because there's far more haters. Faggits on here don't even have Kobe top 10 all time

MJ would tell these flaming faggits that they don't know shyt about basketball

You're a Kobestan yourself, why would you complain about them?

 

[Jplaya2023]

"defenses are harder today"

Funniest shyt I've ever heard. I'm not even sure how this lie came about

Marshon Brooks was out of the league for 4 years and came back looking like top-5 SG.

Klay Thompson dribbled 11 times to score 60 fukking points.

But defenses are harder. fukk outta here

"bu bu bu schemes and zone defenses(in which no team plays a lot of anyway)"

 

[Sccit]

HAS THERE EVER BEEN ANYONE GAYER IN THE HISTORY OF MANKIND THAN @Bilz?

 

[Sccit]

There is literally no arguement for Lebron being the GOAT.

Jordan became the goat because yea he put up monster stats, but he WON

It went from Lebron can never be goat after 2011 to him suddenly being considered goat while loosing 4 more times in the finals.

That nikka lost to a 40 year Tim Duncan, and just barely beat him the 1st time.

BRUH, U CHANGED YOUR NAME GO "LOW QUALITY POSTER" OR WAS THAT THE MODS??

 

[High quality poster]

BRUH, U CHANGED YOUR NAME GO "LOW QUALITY POSTER" OR WAS THAT THE MODS??

Nah that was me.

One of these fukk nikkas gave me a low quality warning for some basic ass shyt.

 

[Broke Wave]

Yeah, Bron's only the GOAT because he beat the Celtics with a team starting Mario Chalmers, Shane Battier, and a rotating platoon of Haslem, Joel Anthony, and Ronnie Turiaf.

Then he cemented it by beating a 73-9 team while starting J.R. Smith, Tristan Thompson, and 35yo Richard Jefferson.

And with Erik Spolstra and Ty Lue as his coaches.

Trying to say that Bron's overhyped because his teams were too good. Name ONE player in the GOAT conversation who took worse teammates/coaches to the ring every time.

Did you really try and discount the 2012 and 2013 world champion Miami Heat roster by not including Wade and Bosh?

Additionally are you trying to say that JR and TT were trash in 2016? The Cavs had a better team than the Warriors talent wise that year and they won the finals big surprise.

 

[Sccit]

Nah that was me.

One of these fukk nikkas gave me a low quality warning for some basic ass shyt.

I FEEL U. WE GOT SOME VERY TOUCHY MODS ON THIS WEBSITE WHO BASE THEIR ACTIONS ON PERSONAL FEELINGS. NO BUENO.

 

[Zyne]

HAS THERE EVER BEEN ANYONE GAYER IN THE HISTORY OF MANKIND THAN @Bilz?

You.

 

[Columbo]

HAS THERE EVER BEEN ANYONE GAYER IN THE HISTORY OF MANKIND THAN @Bilz?

That faggit nikkas on my nuts now