"i still have 4 more dominate years left" kobe bryant

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fukk that give me russy over kobe now
give me durant over kobe
give me cp3 over kobe
 

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Did you see Kobe this year? Did you see him shooting 43% and averaging 3.5 turnovers and gunning bad shots and choking away games in the playoffs?

I don't know how you can still say Kobe is better than D Wade. D Wade is clearly more explosive and efficient. Dwight Howard played like crap in a lot of games this year, but I think that was due to him being mixed up and unhappy in Orlando. A healthy happy Dwight Howard > Kobe in terms of winning games.

He tore a ligament in his SHOOTING hand! What don't ya'll understand about that?!

And as far as D-Wade goes, I don't know any serious basketball ppl that can put him in the top 5 over Kobe.
 

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Man just stop you mean to tell me that if he didnt have the gasol from two years ago would we even be having this conversation?

That 42 point game 5 against the thunder was just imaginary?

The decline of gasol has been much worse than the decline of kobe and bynum is a dude who rarely gives any fukks.

And why has Gasol declined? He's not old or injured. You have to consider the entire chemistry of the team and you can't discount Kobe gunning and playing hero ball when you criticize Gasol and Bynum for being aloof and disinterested. Not to shift the blame, it's on them. But Kobe certainly isn't helping by dribbling around for 5 seconds, not even looking to pass and forcing up bad shots.

Gasol has fell off...fine. Players have down years. And Bynum has gotten better since 09-10...you can't ignore that. But the fact remains the Lakers still have the core of a two-time champion team and got embarrassed in the 2nd round two years in a row. You have to stretch pretty far to cast blame on everyone EXCEPT the undisputed leader of the team, the guy who calls all the shots, and takes the most shots.

Kobe stans are getting worse than Lebron stans with their excuses. You say Gasol and Bynum suck...okay. But since Kobe is still this elite top 3 or top 5 player supposedly, asked yourself what other elite players have a 2nd and 3rd option better than them? The Heat. Maybe OKC. Who has a better 2nd or 3rd option in the league period? San Antonio...Boston. So like maybe 3 or 4 teams have a better trio in the league, and the lead man in that trio is a top 3 or top 5 player supposedly, but they've gotten demolished in the 2nd round in back-to-back years. He's not playing with Smush Parker and Kwame Brown. Y'all seem to be saying Kobe is still elite top 5, but somehow he can't get past the second round unless he's got some kind of Chris Paul/Dwight Howard dream team roster around him.
 

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He tore a ligament in his SHOOTING hand! What don't ya'll understand about that?!

And he's about to be 34 and has been nagged by injuries for a while now. You act like he's going to have a 100% clean bill of health in the future. It might happen, but it might not. Why assess him as if he had one anamolous injury when he's been oft-injured for a minute and that seems to be the norm?

And as far as D-Wade goes, I don't know any serious basketball ppl that can put him in the top 5 over Kobe.

So what exactly does Kobe do better than D Wade right now? Shoot 3s. I'll give him that. He has better footwork too, but Wade makes up for it with athleticism. And Wade is clearly a better defender now. And Wade generally doesn't take horrible shots and hawk at the end of games...and he shoots 49%.
 

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And why has Gasol declined? He's not old or injured. You have to consider the entire chemistry of the team and you can't discount Kobe gunning and playing hero ball when you criticize Gasol and Bynum for being aloof and disinterested. Not to shift the blame, it's on them. But Kobe certainly isn't helping by dribbling around for 5 seconds, not even looking to pass and forcing up bad shots.

Gasol has fell off...fine. Players have down years. And Bynum has gotten better since 09-10...you can't ignore that. But the fact remains the Lakers still have the core of a two-time champion team and got embarrassed in the 2nd round two years in a row. You have to stretch pretty far to cast blame on everyone EXCEPT the undisputed leader of the team, the guy who calls all the shots, and takes the most shots.

Kobe stans are getting worse than Lebron stans with their excuses. You say Gasol and Bynum suck...okay. But since Kobe is still this elite top 3 or top 5 player supposedly, asked yourself what other elite players have a 2nd and 3rd option better than them? The Heat. Maybe OKC. Who has a better 2nd or 3rd option in the league period? San Antonio...Boston. So like maybe 3 or 4 teams have a better trio in the league, and the lead man in that trio is a top 3 or top 5 player supposedly, but they've gotten demolished in the 2nd round in back-to-back years. He's not playing with Smush Parker and Kwame Brown. Y'all seem to be saying Kobe is still elite top 5, but somehow he can't get past the second round unless he's got some kind of Chris Paul/Dwight Howard dream team roster around him.


As much as this is a bunch of long paragraphs to discount kobe for not being top3-5 whatever, I could write paragraphs just as long to talk about how shytty bynum and gasol played in the playoffs.

And what do you mean dream team? The team that won the 09-10 ship was mainly because of kobe as the first option and gasol(who never won a playoff game before) as the second with a bunch of role players. The fukk kind of dream team is that.
 

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He tore a ligament in his SHOOTING hand! What don't ya'll understand about that?!

And as far as D-Wade goes, I don't know any serious basketball ppl that can put him in the top 5 over Kobe.
Injuries are part of the game. Every single player gets injured. If TMac was healthy he would be top 3. Stop with the excuses. Kobe for the most part was terrible this year.
 
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