I think its time to admit that Kanye has eclipsed Jay-z as

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The thing is tho. MBDTF is not even Kanye's best album :smugbiden:


Artistically Jay's discog is that weak that you have to refer to his best album to even compare to Yeezy's last :usure: :manny:

RD shyts on any Ye album imo...the lyrical gap between RD and any Ye album is MUCH larger than the gap between them production-wise...RD one of the best produced albums of all time AND one of the best displays of songwriting ever...can you say that about any YE album?
 

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Jay-'s best music is produced by Just Blaze imo....
I agree. But beats aside, Jay is highly influenced by Kanye as an ARTIST. Jay wasnt doing artsy videos and high fashion until Ye. He wasnt messing with indie artists and doing crossover festivals. Kanye nailed it himself on "Big Brother"
 
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I agree. But beats aside, Jay is highly influenced by Kanye as an ARTIST. Jay wasnt doing artsy videos and high fashion until Ye. He wasnt messing with indie artists and doing crossover festivals. Kanye nailed it himself on "Big Brother"

and his music took a step back after all that shyt...the more artsy Ye becomes the worst his music is...:scusthov::scusthov:
 

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1) Reasonable Doubt
2) Late Registration
3) College Dropout
4) Vol 1
5) BP
6) Black Album
7) Vol 3
8) Graduation
9) BP2
10) 808s/heartbreaks


doing some math, jay aint as outclassed as i thought. overall he matches up well, but in the past few years kanye is clearly ahead by far.
 

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Jay-z been fell off and has been riding Kanye wave for the last 5yrs
He even dressing like this nygga
 

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The thing is tho. MBDTF is not even Kanye's best album :smugbiden:


Artistically Jay's discog is that weak that you have to refer to his best album to even compare to Yeezy's last :usure: :manny:

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In terms of musical relevance, Jay-Z owes Kanye HIS LIFE and he knows it

Sure, Jay cosgning Kanye was a great look, but I think Yeezy woulda been fine anyways because he had the whole artistic vision before he even signed with Rocafella

Musically, Jay-Z is Kanyes SON. In terms of success and accolades, Jay is clearly head-and-shoulders above Ye tho. As an MC, Jay is also leagues ahead of Kanye, but "Jay-Z The Artist" that we now know, is a spin-off of Kanye West


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Fucc all this ''artistically'' bullsh!t, rapping doesn't count as being ''artistic'' now :comeon: ? D!ckriding trends of other music genre's is what counts huh :comeon:? a rapper gotta sing(horribly) in order to be credited as being ''artistic'':comeon:?

:damn: this coming from rap fans. :snoop: same ones who complain when the art form isn't respected.
 

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cover art?....:mindblown:

so I guess Lil B is a better artist than Jay cause he is more involved with his cover art...

yall giving Kanye credit for whistles and bells...Jay was doing shows with live sets before Kanye even dropped his first album...:mindblown:



Jay-Z is every much as an artist as Kanye West...different artist go different ways about presenting their art...just because you prefer one artist's presentation of art more than another doesnt really mean shyt..its your preference, there are no absolutes in art


I'm not going to keep going back and fourth. You obviously see one way and I see another.

I never said Jay-z wasn't a good ARTIST. The original question was who's a better ARTIST, and Kanye is a better all around Artist.

The Lil B comparison is dumb, come on. The point about the cover art was to show a checklist of the areas in which Kanye sways over Jay. His finished product doesn't stop once he turns in his songs....
 

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Fucc all this ''artistically'' bullsh!t, rapping doesn't count as being ''artistic'' now :comeon: ? D!ckriding trends of other music genre's is what counts huh? Plucking obscure samples is more important?

:damn: rapping is the biggest & most important part!


You know who agrees with you?


These guys :heh:

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Is that you Royce :leon: :whoo: :lolbron:
 
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