You gotta give the guy his due. A 15 year run in any genre in any era is insane. Drake knows how to make hits, is willing and able to shift to whats hot, and the thing that I think really has helped him is he has stayed focused. He never veered off into other shyt to the point that music took a back seat. Thats the most surprising thing for me as I figured he would slide back into acting and try to Will Smith it. I dont think anybody can honestly say they say THIS coming.
“I thought Drake would be here only 3-4 Years…He did some Michael Jackson sh*t. If I wanted to leave rap it would be in good hands” - Snoop Dogg
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Nobody acting anything. The competition was way tougher.
This is false and just pure hating. Drake would be a star in any era. Just say you don’t like his music.Y’all need to stop acting like every rapper from the 90s and 2000s was dope. There was plenty of mid and bad artist with respectable careers.
Now nikkas gotta act like they hate snoop
There’s always an excuse for why successful people wouldn’t succeed at some other time, or how they’re lucky. You don’t succeed at the level Drake is nor for as long as Drake has just based on “timing”. Son has been on top of the music game through multiple changes in the industry.
Not true at all timing has a lot to do with it.
Him being from Canada and on a tv show as a kid would hurt him in the 90’s
"Excuse"
There’s always an excuse for why successful people wouldn’t succeed at some other time, or how they’re lucky. You don’t succeed at the level Drake is nor for as long as Drake has just based on “timing”. Son has been on top of the music game through multiple changes in the industry.
It's funny that all criticism is taken as hate. Why would I make excuses? the last time I posted in a drake thread the coli told me I was a dikk rider. Now I'm a hater. shyt hilarious. He is good and successful but also benefits from the era he in with less competition. Noting that isn't taking anything away from him.
Drakes if you’re reading this is his ‘Untitled’. Venturing outta comfort zone and getting some writers to help him with it.
Still doesn’t mean that Nas and Drake can’t write when they both written for other people
Still doesn’t mean that Nas and Drake can’t write when they both written for other people
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I bet he doesn’t even smoke like that
GetRichOrDieTryin
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His ability to sing and rap is the real, non hate reason why hes been at the top
and he does both very very well.. He's a great hook writer too
I know some drake hater will quote me saying he has writers but the fact is, QM gave him references for songs that werent even that good to begin with, and drake's also written for multiple people PLUS he does write himself and does that a lot. Get over it.
edit: also he's the most relatable rapper. He's made it well known that even when he does gangsta rap, its because of the people he knows.. Also him being vulnerable, dropping relatable lines etc. people resonate with his music.
and he does both very very well.. He's a great hook writer too
I know some drake hater will quote me saying he has writers but the fact is, QM gave him references for songs that werent even that good to begin with, and drake's also written for multiple people PLUS he does write himself and does that a lot. Get over it.
edit: also he's the most relatable rapper. He's made it well known that even when he does gangsta rap, its because of the people he knows.. Also him being vulnerable, dropping relatable lines etc. people resonate with his music.
Snoop writers are credited from day 1 from D.O.C. wrote for him to Problem recently.. not ghosts. If you don't read liner credits that's on you. You talking about it like this happened a couple times he has been open about having people write for him for whole projects dude. Snoop stopped writing a long time ago. He still a legend but it sounds like you were not aware and he wasn't hiding it
Drake also credited Quentin but not on every song that they did together so it looked sus when the reference tracks came out. People took that and added the fact that they don't like him to blow up the narrative about tents and him not writing. He def got help but he can do it on his own as well.
Regardless neither of them are elite lyricists to me They are top entertainers.
Honestly I haven't paid much attention to his released works post Doggystyle. Now seeing a name in the credits as a "writer" doesn't necessarily mean its about the lyrics. Especially in an artform where sampling is so prevalent. But yes it is obvious I am a little in the dark about Snoops true writing skills.Snoop writers are credited from day 1 from D.O.C. wrote for him to Problem recently.. not ghosts. If you don't read liner credits that's on you. You talking about it like this happened a couple times he has been open about having people write for him for whole projects dude. Snoop stopped writing a long time ago. He still a legend but it sounds like you were not aware and he wasn't hiding it
Drake also credited Quentin but not on every song that they did together so it looked sus when the reference tracks came out. People took that and added the fact that they don't like him to blow up the narrative about tents and him not writing. He def got help but he can do it on his own as well.
Regardless neither of them are elite lyricists to me They are top entertainers.
Neither of us know what Drake can write because it's never broken down what was written for him vs. what he wrote. All we know is he has had at least one dude writing for him. And the reference tracks, basically Quentin teaching him how to flow, is the ultimate disgrace (at least make the flow your own, jeez). At least it is for those that abide by the traditional rules. I understand these new generations don't give a sh!t. He is a reciter. Period.
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Another thing, he wouldn't have been able to dikkride waves like that
People been shytting on Snoop for years because he has a habit of lying and/or injecting himself into situations that have nothing to do with him. IE, the Nas/Pac shyt.
Fred.
How quickly we forget.... Who is nickleus f to Drake then?Honestly I haven't paid much attention to his released works post Doggystyle. Now seeing a name in the credits as a "writer" doesn't necessarily mean its about the lyrics. Especially in an artform where sampling is so prevalent. But yes it is obvious I am a little in the dark about Snoops true writing skills.
Neither of us know what Drake can write because it's never broken down what was written for him vs. what he wrote. All we know is he has had at least one dude writing for him. And the reference tracks, basically Quentin teaching him how to flow, is the ultimate disgrace (at least make the flow your own, jeez). At least it is for those that abide by the traditional rules. I understand these new generations don't give a sh!t. He is a reciter. Period.
Drake can rap and write but he also uses help. Both things are true.
They all made music that suburbanites ate up all the same. KRS tried to PM Dawn Nelly lyrically.
The 90's weren't really about authenticity. It was all entertainment. Artists just looked the part. We really want to talk about how MC's embellished all these stories and you had The Fugees and The Roots calling it out.
Long Live The Kane
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There’s always an excuse for why successful people wouldn’t succeed at some other time, or how they’re lucky. You don’t succeed at the level Drake is nor for as long as Drake has just based on “timing”. Son has been on top of the music game through multiple changes in the industry.
It’s the “Jay Z wouldn’t have been shyt if Big and PAC didn’t die” argument all over again
Or alternatively, in an entirely different realm, we see the same exact coping mechanisms:
Lebron, Steph, random modern dominating NBA player “wouldn’t have made it playing in the 80s, it was too physical and competitive”