If Aaliyah was still here, do you think she would be the best female artist in R&B/Pop right now?

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No I was wrong. 7.8 million

In Europe the album was certified 2× Platinum in recognition of two million albums sold across the continent; its sales have since surpassed the three million mark. The album was certified 2× Platinum in Australia. The IFPI reported that Survivor was the 3rd best-selling album worldwide of 2001 with 7.8 million copies sold during the year
In the US, the album debuted at number one on the Billboard 200 chart on May 19, 2001 with first-week sales of 663,000 units and stayed at number one for two consecutive weeks. Survivor (Destiny's Child album) - Wikipedia
It remained in the top forty for most of 1999 and had sold over 1.6 million copies by the end of the year according to Nielsen SoundScan and was certified 2× platinum in January 2000. During its first year on the chart it spent forty-seven out of fifty-two weeks in the top forty (including eleven weeks in the top ten) or better and was the tenth best-selling album of 2000, selling 3.8 million copies during the year. The Writing's on the Wall enjoyed its best week of sales more than one year after its release when it sold over 163,000 units during the Christmas week of 2000, and by the release of the group's third album Survivor it had scanned 5.8 million in the United States and shipped over seven million copies. The Writing's on the Wall spent ninety-nine consecutive weeks on the Billboard 200 (from the summer of 1999 until the spring of 2001) and was certified 8× platinum by the Recording Industry Association of America on November 8, 2001.
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again, tell me why aaliyah was on bet and mtv all summer.... then she passed.
then they recycled all those videos for days. over and over. with her videos. over and over.
beyonce wasnt on either channel like that AT ALL.

i dont give a fukk bout your sales theory from wikipedia. aaliyah was a different level than beyonce, who was IN A GIRL GROUP AT THE TIME AALIYAH WAS OUT SINCE 1992
she's been in the industry since 1992. beyonce claims 1997
 

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wow. thanx for linking wikipedia :comeon:




again, tell me why aaliyah was on bet and mtv all summer.... then she passed.
then they recycled all those videos for days. over and over. with her videos. over and over.
beyonce wasnt on either channel like that AT ALL.

i dont give a fukk bout your sales theory from wikipedia. aaliyah was a different level than beyonce, who was IN A GIRL GROUP AT THE TIME AALIYAH WAS OUT SINCE 1992
she's been in the industry since 1992. beyonce claims 1997

Nikka you a lie. DC was on rolling stone and doing prime time tv, intros for popular kids shows and all over MTV and BET. The breakup controversy was big at that same time too. Aaliyah hadmt released a album for years by 2001 and was more into acting. Those wiki sales are quoting Soundscan, RIAA and other sales sources.
 
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Nikka you a lie. DC was on rolling stone and doing prime time tv, intros for popular kids shows and all over MTV and BET. The breakup controversy was big at that same time too. Aaliyah hadmt released a album for years by 2001 and was more into acting. Those wiki sales are quoting Soundscan, RIAA and other sales sources.

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aaliyah always wanted to remain singing. her whole steez in the game was seeing her grow.
you got young teen aaliyah in the first album
you then get older teenage aaliyah in the second.
then her 3rd was gonna be her 20's..... her 4th album wouldve probably been done years later after her acting jobs, going into her 30's
her catalog was GROWTH
beyonce had pop music about an ass aaliyah didnt have. and hooks for top20 pop stations.
beyonce was trying to be the blakk madonna
aaliyah wanted to be the younger mary j blige. cmon now.

i even question the fact you were listening to either in 2001 like that..
like a stan.... you stanned beyonce in 2001?? :what:
i never hung out with a male who did that in 2001. they were stanning jay not bey
 

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aaliyah always wanted to remain singing. her whole steez in the game was seeing her grow.
you got young teen aaliyah in the first album
you then get older teenage aaliyah in the second.
then her 3rd was gonna be her 20's..... her 4th album wouldve probably been done years later after her acting jobs, going into her 30's
her catalog was GROWTH
beyonce had pop music about an ass aaliyah didnt have. and hooks for top20 pop stations.
beyonce was trying to be the blakk madonna
aaliyah wanted to be the younger mary j blige. cmon now.

i even question the fact you were listening to either in 2001 like that..
like a stan.... you stanned beyonce in 2001?? :what:
i never hung out with a male who did that in 2001. they were stanning jay not bey

DC was sold records than Aaliyah while she was alive and there's nothing wrong with that because Aaliyah undoubtedly was taken too soon and I miss her, but if we being real here Beyonce reached a higher peek both while Aaliyah was alive and after.
 
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wow. thanx for linking wikipedia :comeon:




again, tell me why aaliyah was on bet and mtv all summer.... then she passed.
then they recycled all those videos for days. over and over. with her videos. over and over.
beyonce wasnt on either channel like that AT ALL.

i dont give a fukk bout your sales theory from wikipedia. aaliyah was a different level than beyonce, who was IN A GIRL GROUP AT THE TIME AALIYAH WAS OUT SINCE 1992
she's been in the industry since 1992. beyonce claims 1997

She had a album coming out and a movie. It's called promotion.
 
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Stop moving the goal post. DC was sold records than Aaliyah while she was alive and there's nothing wrong with that because Aaliyah undoubtedly was taken too soon and I miss her, but if we being real here Beyonce reached a higher peek both while Aaliyah was alive and after.

you made a statement about beyonce IN 2001, and it was wrong

aaliyah > beyonce 2001.

aaliyah died, and bootylicious got beyonce her clout to go solo



She had a album coming out and a movie. It's called promotion.


when beyonce was in austin powers, they didnt give her an mtv diary and bet access behind the scenes... for music and her movie
 

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you made a statement about beyonce IN 2001, and it was wrong

aaliyah > beyonce 2001.

aaliyah died, and bootylicious got beyonce her clout to go solo






when beyonce was in austin powers, they didnt give her an mtv diary and bet access behind the scenes... for music and her movie

That song came out before Aaliyah's death. That "statement" I made about Beyonce was true. Destiny child was bigger and you cant find me receipts that proofs otherwise but talking about Aaliyah's appearance on tv so I'll leave this here. D.C. had those same appearances, magazine covers and they were billboard artists of the year twice


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The R&B/pop act scored big in 2000 with the No. 1 singles "Say My Name" and "Independent Women Part 1." The latter was such a smash success (11 weeks at No. 1), its No. 1 reign lasted into the 2001 chart year, helping the trio earn the top artist of the year trophy in both 2000 and 2001.
The trio was the second group to earn the top artist title in back-to-back years (2000 and 2001), following New Kids on the Block in 1989 and 1990.
Billboard's Artists of the Year: 1981-2015
 
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All the label has to do is make a call to get that. It's not really hard.
but beyonce didnt even get a good response in that movie.
she only did it to be like aaliyah and get into a movie. wasnt even good acting.
is it that her label didnt make these calls you say aaliyah's uncle made??
or is it possible MTV and BET asked her to do it?
she had a very hectic shedule and it was her choice.... you act like she wasnt being ASKED to be public with her life.
they did more mtv and bet specials on aaliyah and WITH aaliyah from the get than beyonce everrr had in 2001



That song came out before Aaliyah's death. That "statement" I made about Beyonce was true. Destiny child was bigger and you clearly find me receipts that proofs otherwise but talking about Aaliyah's appearance on tv. D.C. had those same appearances, magazine covers and they were billboard artists of the year twice



The R&B/pop act scored big in 2000 with the No. 1 singles "Say My Name" and "Independent Women Part 1." The latter was such a smash success (11 weeks at No. 1), its No. 1 reign lasted into the 2001 chart year, helping the trio earn the top artist of the year trophy in both 2000 and 2001.
The trio was the second group to earn the top artist title in back-to-back years (2000 and 2001), following New Kids on the Block in 1989 and 1990.
Billboard's Artists of the Year: 1981-2015





i find it funny you wanna bring up beyonce's white fans.
aaliyah really had no white fans.... not in the demographic beyonce had because of her ALL GIRL GROUP


keep comparing 3 against 1. keep comparing a solo act with a trio act whose father managed one of them into stardom after aaliyah died.


you wanna talk sales??? SAY DESTINYS CHILD VS AALIYAH
 

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but beyonce didnt even get a good response in that movie.
she only did it to be like aaliyah and get into a movie. wasnt even good acting.
is it that her label didnt make these calls you say aaliyah's uncle made??
or is it possible MTV and BET asked her to do it?
she had a very hectic shedule and it was her choice.... you act like she wasnt being ASKED to be public with her life.
they did more mtv and bet specials on aaliyah and WITH aaliyah from the get than beyonce everrr had in 2001

Aaliyah hadn't put out a cd in 5 years. Aaliyah had movies coming out. She had to be on full press promo. You don't think her label and uncle wasn't making calls? Aaliyah wasn't some huge star like you trying to portray
 
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Aaliyah hadn't put out a cd in 5 years. Aaliyah had movies coming out. She had to be on full press promo. You don't think her label and uncle wasn't making calls? Aaliyah wasn't some huge star like you trying to portray

did i say she was a HUGE STAR? you and the other knukklehead saying beyonce was the HUGE STAR in 2001. :mjlol:

aaliyah was a solo act who had her own lane and her own success.... alone

beyonce tried so hard to go solo.
even did it in 2000 on an amil song.....then when it flopped she recycled the melody for her 2001 independent woman song.

do you even know what it took for her to get herself that feature ??:takedat:

thats another post, but you keep thinking beyonce was this super solo act and was seen as such
she was ONE of THREE and hated it. she was jealous of aaliyah. and jay was jealous of dame
 

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did i say she was a HUGE STAR? you and the other knukklehead saying beyonce was the HUGE STAR in 2001. :mjlol:

aaliyah was a solo act who had her own lane and her own success.... alone

beyonce tried so hard to go solo.
even did it in 2000 on an amil song.....then when it flopped she recycled the melody for her 2001 independent woman song.

do you even know what it took for her to get herself that feature ??:takedat:

thats another post, but you keep thinking beyonce was this super solo act and was seen as such
she was ONE of THREE and hated it. she was jealous of aaliyah. and jay was jealous of dame

You didn't say Aaliyah was a huge star. Show me where I said Beyonce was a huge star in 2001. Aaliyah was a solo artist that's why she had solo success. And Beyonce doing features what wrong with that?
 
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You didn't say Aaliyah was a huge star. Show me where I said Beyonce was a huge star in 2001. Aaliyah was a solo artist that's why she had solo success. And Beyonce doing features what wrong with that?

so you agree that beyonce wasnt on a solo success level in 2001 as aaliyah was in 2001.
2001 was destiny's child best pop album to date.... independent woman...survivor.....im starting to remember that year.
they dropped independent woman THeN the album... right?
then she did that movie after aaliyah died... didnt even keep with the music, went straight to the screen. why?
why she want her other two member to release albums first, which did really well.... but she go last??

beyonce wasnt even asked to do an mtv diary alone at that time. nor was the group asked.
bet didnt even fukk with destiny's child the way mtv did. bet fukked with aaliyah and mtv joined that wave.
because mtv and bet are in URBAN households...... those who didnt watch tv heard DESTINYS CHILD ON Z100 AND KTU.
aaliyah was on kiss fm and hot 97

different lanes. beyonce did a feature on a label jay z owned.
a girl from texas trying to fukk with those aaliyah had clout with.
aaliyah was in the studio with big and jay in 94
 

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so you agree that beyonce wasnt on a solo success level in 2001 as aaliyah was in 2001.
2001 was destiny's child best pop album to date.... independent woman...survivor.....im starting to remember that year.
they dropped independent woman THeN the album... right?
then she did that movie after aaliyah died... didnt even keep with the music, went straight to the screen. why?
why she want her other two member to release albums first, which did really well.... but she go last??

beyonce wasnt even asked to do an mtv diary alone at that time. nor was the group asked.
bet didnt even fukk with destiny's child the way mtv did. bet fukked with aaliyah and mtv joined that wave.
because mtv and bet are in URBAN households...... those who didnt watch tv heard DESTINYS CHILD ON Z100 AND KTU.
aaliyah was on kiss fm and hot 97

different lanes. beyonce did a feature on a label jay z owned.
a girl from texas trying to fukk with those aaliyah had clout with.
aaliyah was in the studio with big and jay in 94

As far as solo Aaliyah at the time was bigger I agree. Now DC was way bigger than Aaliyah. And when you think about DC you think of Beyonce. Her doing a movie and dropping isn't a bad thing. Her solo career was being set up. I actually think because of the success Kelly had with Nelly that's why Beyonce waited. The song Work It Out didn't pop and well they probably didn't wanna drop the ball. MTV Diary thing you keep going is not a big deal. Go back and look at how many people had one and also Beyonce was apart of a group why would she do a solo one at the time. Also, DC was all over the radio, MTV and Bet. DC was one of the biggest acts that year. Also, Amil album was on Columbia Records. Beyonce was on Columbia records. You don't think that label might have thought it was good idea to have Beyonce as feature on the song? Again it's called marketing. But i get with you. You wanna of them people think Beyonce bit Aaliyah whole career.
 
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As far as solo Aaliyah at the time was bigger I agree. Now DC was way bigger than Aaliyah. And when you think about DC you think of Beyonce. Her doing a movie and dropping isn't a bad thing. Her solo career was being set up. I actually think because of the success Kelly had with Nelly that's why Beyonce waited. The song Work It Out didn't pop and well they probably didn't wanna drop the ball. MTV Diary thing you keep going is not a big deal. Go back and look at how many people had one and also Beyonce was apart of a group why would she do a solo one at the time. Also, DC was all over the radio, MTV and Bet. DC was one of the biggest acts that year. Also, Amil album was on Columbia Records. Beyonce was on Columbia records. You don't think that label might have thought it was good idea to have Beyonce as feature on the song? Again it's called marketing. But i get with you. You wanna of them people think Beyonce bit Aaliyah whole career.

go direct the "mtv" diary comment to the poster who claimed beyonce in her own solo person was more successful than aailiyah at the time.
if that was true, she wouldve gotten her own diary. and if the group was seen in a way that you're claimin and they did other ones with other artists, why was there not another type show made for them by mtv or bet. i dont even remember behind the scenes shyt. not that i was watching mtv like that but i remember the summer of 2001 very well.
i remember summers more than any other season usually.... and that summer had DC quietly accepting their best pop album to date and living off the bootylicious song
that went viral.... even got to certain hood heads who knew that word frm snoop dogg.
that was the MOST GHETTO DC ever got with their fan base.... no crip was playing destinys child... but sure as fukk they playing "let me know" in their room alone.....
and im not trying to be funny.
aaliyah was loved. beyonce is pop culture in 2001

keep bringing up sales and marketing, but aaliyah didnt want that type marketing beyonce got and wanted.
aaliyah was happy staying the princess. beyonce wanted to go after mary j bliges title and add some tina turner to it
 
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