"If all you listen to is ignorant trap shyt, you [become] an ignorant trap nikka" - Joey Badass

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I think people that listen to trap are frauds generally. I don't think it makes you ignorant but the people making the music are frauds and chances are people consuming frauds as well.

They ain;t true to themselves, only like whats hot. Now I know folks that grew up on trap whether gucci, jeezy, oj da juice, etc.. Those guys generally identified with that grind displayed in that music. Now days, bare fraud sht.

Overall there needs to be a balance. You an listen to future, kendrick, robert glasper, kodak etc at the same time and that's how our radio should be not a whole bunch of bullshet
 
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I think people that listen to trap are frauds generally. I don't think it makes you ignorant but the people making the music are frauds and chances are people consuming frauds as well.

They ain;t true to themselves, only like whats hot. Now I know folks that grew up on trap whether gucci, jeezy, oj da juice, etc.. Those guys generally identified with that grind displayed in that music. Now days, bare fraud sht.

Overall there needs to be a balance. You an listen to future, kendrick, robert glasper, kodak etc at the same time and that's how are radio should be not a whole bunch of bullshet
Again, it's the 808's. Those dudes suck otherwise. I blasted that new Future album in my glasshouse and it sounded incredible. Take away the 808's and that shyt would be a coaster (had I bought the cd).
 

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nikkas dress like rappers. Rapper wear baggy, they wear baggy. Throwbacks for fab, throwbacks for them. Button up time for jay, button up time for them. Skinny jeans, skinny jeans. Wallet chain, wallet chain.

Drink what they drink. Do the same drugs. Cristal. Wait no, don't drink cristal. Ciroc. Nah we on patron in my cup. Nah how about that lean that was wasn't doing 5 years ago. Weed. Nah I need OG kush. Oh wiz got KK. Now I got KK. Oh future doing xans, let me get a bar. nikkas smoking wu bobs, let me try that. Oh ja doing ecstasy. Let's do that. Oh we off that? Yea me too. Oops we back on again cause now rappers doing molly

nikkas getting the same guns rappers got. Oh everybody got a 9. Nas got a tech. Silencer on the uzi. Damn I want a chopper.

nikkas in college, in the club, rapping thugged out raps, finger guns in the air, acting like they busting someone, mean mugging, prancing around like they in the video. Looking for a bad and bougie bytch. Walking around campus quoting bars like it apply to they life. Talking bout nikkas better chill before he catch a hot one, on the way to calculus. Dumping their side chick cause it ain't nothing to cut that bytch off


But rap has no influence on their lives. It's just music that only effects the weak minded. :mjgrin:



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In addition, we have to acknowledge that there's a lot of people that aren't raised by their parents, some people don't have positive male figures. So who do they look up to as the black male figure? The media is a real thing, I'm not against trap but we need to diversify how we are perceived and how we perceive ourselves. It's not for me, my pops was the one who taught me how to be a black man, but lets be real some people don't have this. Some people cannot think critically and see that this is one sided depiction of our community. Rather they see it as the ONLY depiction of our community.

I like to listen to trap occasionally, as well as a whole bunch of other genres. The idea of diversifying music is up to the individual sure, but some people just don't understand this.
 

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AND THEY KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH RELEASING SUBPAR MUSIC!!!!!

Thats the point.

nikkas KNOW Kendrick's new single is ass.

They. Know. It.

But they wanna carry this "substance" tag so much, they'll overlook all of the other standards of quality music just to pretend to like this shyt and show off how "deep" they are to their friends.

Kendrick new single is flames bruh
 

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I can't wait for this fake "woke" shyt to pass like every other trend. shyt is annoying:Floydhands:

nikka music is trash. Mostly cac's listen to him. not one nikka I know had heard of or listens to this nikka.

nikkas like him favorite line for why their music ain't poppin "THE MASSES ARE ALL SHEEP. THEY DONT KNOW REAL MUSIC! THEYRE BRAINWASHED!!:sadbron::sadbron:"

:Umad2pac:

His music is popping he sold alot of records
 

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nikka define "a lot" :heh:

He'll never be listened to on the same level/same amount as the nikkas he's bytching about and that's why he's heated :bryan:
nikka WHAT???

His first album sold 225k. That's more than every young thug album together. That's more than both migos albums. Yachty, keef, black, savage.

Who else you wanna name not future?


People need to realize for all the "plays" trap rap get, nobody buys their albums whatsoever

The highest selling rap music still has lyrics involved from ye to drake to Kendrick to Cole and so on
 
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nikka WHAT???

His first album sold 225k. That's more than every young thug album together. That's more than both migos albums. Yachty, keef, black, savage.

Who else you wanna name not future?


People need to realize for all the "plays" trap rap get, nobody buys their albums whatsoever

The highest selling rap music still has lyrics involved from ye to drake to Kendrick to Cole and so on

Lmao Kanye and Drake still don't rap about stupid concsious shyt. Kendrick and Cole has no replay value. It's all hype
Buys. You'll never hear their shyt on the radio and if you do, it's maybe once and then it's trashed. It's mostly hipster cac's who hype buy that shyt. nikkas do not and will not listen to it in mass. You'll hear no Joey, New Kendrick or New Cole album in any hood and it pisses this nikka and other nikkas like him off:heh:

And are you talking 250K first week or total? Because I highly doubt if we're talking total he's sold more than migos both first albums. Stop it :bryan:

Stop trying to lump Drake and Kanye in with these "lyricals" to prove a point, because their hottest songs go against what this weirdo nikka is preaching about :Martinleave:
 

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Lmao Kanye and Drake still don't rap about stupid concsious shyt. Kendrick and Cole has no replay value. It's all hype
Buys. You'll never hear their shyt on the radio and if you do, it's maybe once and then it's trashed. It's mostly hipster cac's who hype buy that shyt. nikkas do not and will not listen to it in mass. You'll hear no Joey, New Kendrick or New Cole album in any hood and it pisses this nikka and other nikkas like him off:heh:

And are you talking 250K first week or total? Because I highly doubt if we're talking total he's sold more than migos both first albums. Stop it :bryan:

Stop trying to lump Drake and Kanye in with these "lyricals" to prove a point, because their hottest songs go against what this weirdo nikka is preaching about :Martinleave:
bruh migos first album didn't even sell 20k total

the first week of their latest album did 131k first week and ain't hit 200k yet


so i'll say it again... joey's first album alone outsold both migos albums combined


also i said LYRICS and SALES... drake and ye spit lyrics... kendrick, cole, etc.... spit LYRICS... and they LEAD THE CHARTS IN SALES.. even on their club records, they spitting some shyt.. they ain't mumbling their way while talking about doing pills and shooting nikkas and gang gang gang.. listen to the quote.. IGNORANT trap music

mumble rap, trap rap, etc leads the plays in the club and the radio.. but at the end of the day, ain't nobody spending any actual money on the shyt... lyrics still run rap
 
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bruh migos first album didn't even sell 20k total

the first week of their latest album did 131k first week and ain't hit 200k yet


so i'll say it again... joey's first album alone outsold both migos albums combined


also i said LYRICS and SALES... drake and ye spit lyrics... kendrick, cole, etc.... spit LYRICS... and they LEAD THE CHARTS IN SALES.. even on their club records, they spitting some shyt.. they ain't mumbling their way while talking about doing pills and shooting nikkas and gang gang gang.. listen to the quote.. IGNORANT trap music

mumble rap, trap rap, etc leads the plays in the club and the radio.. but at the end of the day, ain't nobody spending any actual money on the shyt... lyrics still run rap
Lmao nikka you must not have heard what Drake has been talking about lately. He's talking about popping muscle relaxers and smoking just like everybody else. And all through Drakes new album he's talking about his boys are shooters. Stop it :heh:
And migos do not mumble. You can understand clearly what they are saying. Stop it:heh:

Now if you wanna say Future mumbles, ok. But he still sells more than him:heh:

And Kanye isn't talking about much of anything either.

And so you're talking about first week sales then? I want a link to this 250k sold first week then since you know so much about what they're are selling. You think just because some hipster cac's buy their music that means they're poppin? Most trap rappers give their away for free which is why most of their sales aren't high. Only thing they care about are doing shows.

But none of this really matters tho. This is about "conscious" Vs everything else. And my point is you will not hear any trash ass conscious music on the radio. You WILL NOT hear black people listening to that shyt, and that's what really bothers nikkas like Joey. Unless you're making a party/turnup track, your shyt will not make ANY station and for good reason.

Y'all nikkas think just cause you talk about world problems that you're some kind of revolutionary :dead:
 
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bruh migos first album didn't even sell 20k total

the first week of their latest album did 131k first week and ain't hit 200k yet


so i'll say it again... joey's first album alone outsold both migos albums combined


also i said LYRICS and SALES... drake and ye spit lyrics... kendrick, cole, etc.... spit LYRICS... and they LEAD THE CHARTS IN SALES.. even on their club records, they spitting some shyt.. they ain't mumbling their way while talking about doing pills and shooting nikkas and gang gang gang.. listen to the quote.. IGNORANT trap music

mumble rap, trap rap, etc leads the plays in the club and the radio.. but at the end of the day, ain't nobody spending any actual money on the shyt... lyrics still run rap
And let's also not forget the fact that MOST of these trap rappers aren't signed and have a major marketing team behind them. These nikkas still manage to do alright just posting on SoundCloud.

They have more success making it then one of these "lyrical" rappers have of making it while also unsigned. For every nikka like Chance there's 10 trappers that made it :lawd:
 

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Lmao nikka you must not have heard what Drake has been talking about lately. He's talking about popping muscle relaxers and smoking just like everybody else. And all through Drakes new album he's talking about his boys are shooters. Stop it :heh:
And migos do not mumble. You can understand clearly what they are saying. Stop it:heh:

Now if you wanna say Future mumbles, ok. But he still sells more than him:heh:

And Kanye isn't talking about much of anything either.

And so you're talking about first week sales then? I want a link to this 250k sold first week then since you know so much about what they're are selling. You think just because some hipster cac's buy their music that means they're poppin? Most trap rappers give their away for free which is why most of their sales aren't high. Only thing they care about are doing shows.

But none of this really matters tho. This is about "conscious" Vs everything else. And my point is you will not hear any trash ass conscious music on the radio. You WILL NOT hear black people listening to that shyt, and that's what really bothers nikkas like Joey. Unless you're making a party/turnup track, your shyt will not make ANY station and for good reason.

Y'all nikkas think just cause you talk about world problems that you're some kind of revolutionary :dead:
nikka you have ZERO reading comprehension

1. the quote says if ALL you listen to is IGNORANT trap music... so it's not talking about a few bars here and a few songs there.. it's talking about those who listen to NOTHING but IGNORANT trap music

so lets go down your list

2. yes drake and ye talk about drugs and guns... but for the 5th time, i said they have bars, lyricism and actually try to rap... that's also not ALL they talk about throughout their entire albums.. i also mentioned about 5-6 other rappers you conveniently left out... that are all killing the sales game as well

3. i said TOTAL.. i said it at least 3 times... not first week... TOTAL... joey's first only did 55k first week... he went on to sell 227k albums by word of mouth cause it damn sure wasnt hype or his singles... meanwhile migos had that song with stimulus package drake being played an entire year straight... sold a TOTAL of about 30k... the second did 131k but has still not reached 200k... therefore COMBINED, joey has outsold them 2 albums to 1... add in another 30k if you count joey's that just dropped... but i wasn't... then i also named about 5-6 other artists in TOTAL that joey outsold... i see you skipped that too.... so that argument is dead

4. migos ain't talking bout shyt.. spit bad and bougie right now... them nikkas mumbling too.. i don't even care to try and decipher two albums of that shyt

5. i just said twice... you will not hear conscious shyt on the radio... i mean you making my damn points... so i'll say for the last time... trap music gets more PLAY in the club and radio... IT DOES NOT OUTSELL nikkaS WITH BARS




put up 5 trap rappers... i'll put up 5 conscious and won't even use drake or ye... then we'll compare sales and money
 

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And let's also not forget the fact that MOST of these trap rappers aren't signed and have a major marketing team behind them. These nikkas still manage to do alright just posting on SoundCloud.

They have more success making it then one of these "lyrical" rappers have of making it while also unsigned. For every nikka like Chance there's 10 trappers that made it :lawd:
like who nikka

who ain't signed out here? name names
 
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nikka you have ZERO reading comprehension

1. the quote says if ALL you listen to is IGNORANT trap music... so it's not talking about a few bars here and a few songs there.. it's talking about those who listen to NOTHING but IGNORANT trap music

so lets go down your list

2. yes drake and ye talk about drugs and guns... but for the 5th time, i said they have bars, lyricism and actually try to rap... that's also not ALL they talk about throughout their entire albums.. i also mentioned about 5-6 other rappers you conveniently left out... that are all killing the sales game as well

3. i said TOTAL.. i said it at least 3 times... not first week... TOTAL... joey's first only did 55k first week... he went on to sell 227k albums by word of mouth cause it damn sure wasnt hype or his singles... meanwhile migos had that song with stimulus package drake being played an entire year straight... sold a TOTAL of about 30k... the second did 131k but has still not reached 200k... therefore COMBINED, joey has outsold them 2 albums to 1... add in another 30k if you count joey's that just dropped... but i wasn't... then i also named about 5-6 other artists in TOTAL that joey outsold... i see you skipped that too.... so that argument is dead

4. migos ain't talking bout shyt.. spit bad and bougie right now... them nikkas mumbling too.. i don't even care to try and decipher two albums of that shyt

5. i just said twice... you will not hear conscious shyt on the radio... i mean you making my damn points... so i'll say for the last time... trap music gets more PLAY in the club and radio... IT DOES NOT OUTSELL nikkaS WITH BARS




put up 5 trap rappers... i'll put up 5 conscious and won't even use drake or ye... then we'll compare sales and money
And your dumb ass keeps missing my point:dwillhuh:

You are equating lyrical to conscious. You can lyrically talk about drugs or killing people, nikka. And please stop trying to convince yourself you can't understand migos. You can play any Migos song to a random person and they will understand them. Stop trying to push that mumbling shyt onto them just because you don't like them:Martinleave:

And like I said; either you're going to post links to these sales or nothing you have to say about what they're selling matters. You just keep quoting some random ass numbers without and links :heh:

But it's like I SAID ALREADY. Cac's hype but their shyt. NOBODY ACTUALLY LISTENS TO IT which is what this is all about. It dose not matter what they sell. It's all on hype. J Cole just went platinum again and I hear NOBODY listening to his shyt. They were even trying to give away his concert tickets in my city that nobody wants. I'll repeate; hipster cac's but their shyt. Iv already told you that trap rappers don't even put out albums like that. They release their music on soundcloud or YouTube and still are able to make it more than these nikkad that anyone has hardly heard off. These so many nikkas off SoundCloud; Uzi, Boat, Playboi Carti, even this XXX nikka that I don't like but he's still poppin more than any of these concious nikkas. This is about him crying because no one wants to listen to his trash ass music/ trash ass conscious music. But keep quoting random sale numbers to me until your fingers bleed tho :bryan:
 
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