if biggie was still around, jay z would be nothin' more than lil cease status
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Black_Panther_JS
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maybe not lil cease status but you get the point
look, i like reasonable doubt, bp, tba and ag. rd is of my favorites hip hop albums that has gotten better w/ time
but let's not act like jay z won't a poor man's version of biggie (and for the record, i like jay z)
biggie was jay's blueprint. everythin' biggie did, jay has followed suit and did when it comes to the music
anytime a man quotes another man every since album since 2nd album (vol. 1) it speaks volume
when big was here, there was no room for jay to spread his wings
big had the game on lock, especially as far as the east coast went with solo artist (competition bein' nas)
no jay z album comes close to ready to die
no jay z album comes close to life after death
even on jay's best day with rd, bp and tba, he pales in comarison to biggie's monumental albums
i know a bunch of stans will come in here and say this or that but i'm sorry, facts is facts
i say this as a jay z FAN but jay z was able take over the game due to both big and pac's passin'
jay z is a poor man's or diet coke version of biggie
jay z can fool the generation of fans who know of him from blueprint and on but not us old heads
biggie was the true king of new york; frank white
where my fellow old heads at who know what's up at?
Reasonable Doubt is just as good as Ready to Die
and there could've been 3 rappers on top
but he wouldn't have been able to steal BIGs style
ManBearPig
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Why wouldn't jay-z blow up?
nikkaz can't listen to more than 1 rapper?
nikkaz can't listen to more than 1 rapper?
bigbadbossup2012
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He would have been fabolous
bigbadbossup2012
Biggest baddest boss
not really
Jay retired,so by the retarded logic of this thread Fabolous should be Jay right now
And @stomachlines how the hell did Biggie show he could do more than Nas and Jay?and are you saying they didnt also show they could do more than him
They both proved they could make hits and classic records without Puffy,can Biggie say the same
?without Puffy,Biggie is a less versatile Beanie SigelI love Latina women
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Jay retired,so by the retarded logic of this thread Fabolous should be Jay right now
And @stomachlines how the hell did Biggie show he could do more than Nas and Jay?and are you saying they didnt also show they could do more than him
They both proved they could make hits and classic records without Puffy,can Biggie say the same
biggie could do both the songs for the streets, then do an introspective/retrospective joint and a have a club banger (
now i will admit, puff did help to smooth out those edges with the singles
nas can do that with the exception of club joints
jay can do the club joints and he got some introsepective/retrospective songs but with the exception of those types on reasonable doubt, they come off lightweight
after learin' how the game works and how to balance his craft from puffy, biggie probably could've done it without puff
but i won't front like puffy didn't play a role in helpin' biggie with his mold and hone his craft and talent
I love Latina women
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I love Latina women
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Same lane?who cares?You do realize them nikkas rap completley different right? You know how many nikkas i know who will never listen to Jay because he simply dont "sound hard"? nikkas aint listening to Jay because he rap about coke too,they liked the way he rapped period....more poetic,faaaaar better wordplay,more clever,more cocky,way more introspective,stop me when Im wrong
By your logic 90% of ny rappers wouldnt hve existed if Biggie didnt die which we know is a damn lie
Jay is a much different rpper from Biggie,and people like that
you missed my point when i said same lane and obviously just don't get what i said but whatever, it's all good
What really gets me is when people say Jay stole Nas's style.
Even more insane.
seemorecizzy
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I don't know why some ppl are trying to make it a debate about who's better between biggie and jay. It has nothing to do with anything. Some ppl prefer az over nas, the fact remains that az never left nas's shadow and that's despite him having his own style.
There's documented proof of Jayz dropping one of the best albums ever and dropping one of the best radio singles of that era, and still being a after thought.
There's proof of him dropping an album trying to ride the wave of biggies death and trying to wear shiny suits and be next up to the throne and no one really caring.
He's a smart guy who never gave up on himself and had a lot of luck.
There's documented proof of Jayz dropping one of the best albums ever and dropping one of the best radio singles of that era, and still being a after thought.
There's proof of him dropping an album trying to ride the wave of biggies death and trying to wear shiny suits and be next up to the throne and no one really caring.
He's a smart guy who never gave up on himself and had a lot of luck.
Jay would've still been successful but probably not the way he is now. OP was drunk talking bout Lil Cease status 
but I see what he's saying.
but I see what he's saying.
Here Comes the Pain
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This is true. Some people may not want to admit it, but Jay-Z wasn't even a factor when Biggie was alive.
Biggie being gone is what really gave Jay-Z the opportunity to be that dude as far as king of ny.
Biggie being gone is what really gave Jay-Z the opportunity to be that dude as far as king of ny.