If Danny Ferry lands CP3 and Dwight to play with Horford, is he the GOAT GM?

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Think about it. Atlanta going into last summer was over 63 million with no mobility.

Joe Johnson has a crazy big contract.
We had an injury prone Marvin Williams who produced at times but nothing to warrant his deal.
Josh Smith was constantly complaining.
We just got knocked out of the 1st round to Boston which was the 1st time we didn't make the 2nd round since our lost to Boston in 2009.

We hired Danny Ferry. He was hyped to be the best GM talent in the NBA. Other GM's lauded him and his time with Cleveland earned him great merit with his peers.

I didn't know what to expect. I am like, we're stuck and boring. :ld:

Then we trade Joe Johnson for a lot of scrubs, a 1st round pick from HOU that we only get if they make the playoffs which didn't look likely at the time. Remember, no Harden, Aisk or Lin. They still had Scola and Martin. Also we got two draft pick swaps for 2014 and 2015 but that too didn't look good since we are likely going to be worse than Brooklyn in 2014 and 2015 at the time.

I was looking at the trade mixed. We got rid of Joe's contract but where are we going. :wtb: We are too good to suck and too sorry now to be good. We aren't even a stud away anymore :to:

Then we trade Marvin Williams for Devin Harris. I seen this trade as a wash at the time because Marvin had value to me as a legit SF who can defend and hit the corner three. Harris on the other hand was a PG who was more of a combo guard who I was unsure about. I seen that Harris had great PnR numbers in Jersey and hoped for the best at time since our PG was ass at being a real PG. Talented player but bad PG.

What this did was clear up a lot of cap space for us which meant we can sign two max players. Problem was, Dwight was traded to LA which has history and now Dwight to go with names like Nash, Kobe, and Gasol. Now you seen Gasol and Kobe getting worse but Nash was still playing at an all star level and Kobe was still very good. Not sure how it was going to work since the pieces don't fit but with the names being so massive, I though what's the worst that is going to happen.

CP3 was going into his 2nd year with LAC. I didn't think they were a contender but I assumed that he wouldn't leave LAC. They have ample talent and they are extremely fun to watch.

Bynum was another player I was liked a tad but Philly loved him and thought he would change their franchise as a cornerstone player.

So, we had a lot of money coming in 2013, a stud in Horford, an extremely talent low BBIQ tweener in Smith and a bunch of role players.

I was like, :ld:. We ain't getting Dwight or CP3. Nor Bynum. We have to spent 20 mil and we aren't that good. I wasn't expecting much and was thinking about how hard do I want to be a Hawk fan. We are going nowhere. Ferry did a decent job but what was the cause. Brooklyn is now us if not better.

Well, the season happened. The Lakers looked like old shyt. Rockets traded for Harden, made the playoffs. CP3 doesn't get alone with Blake and DJ and is pissed at ownership. Horford finished the 2nd half of the season avg 20/10 during that stretch and getting 2 1st place All NBA votes. We still have two max deals money as well as two 1st round picks and two 2nd's.

Word has it that Dwight and CP3 and testing all options and Atlanta is at the top of the list if we can get both players which is possible.

We also get to swap 2014 and 2015 picks with Brooklyn.

We also get to keep Lou and Horf as pieces and John Jenkins fits like a glove with Dwight and CP3. Not to mention we still have a MLE as well.

Danny Ferry can build a dynasty. They say Rome wasn't built in one day but they didn't have Danny Ferry getting the contracts to build. :obama:

My question to you is, if Ferry lands both CP3 and D12 is he the greatest GM of all time?
 

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We hired Danny Ferry. He was hyped to be the best GM talent in the NBA. Other GM's lauded him and his time with Cleveland earned him great merit with his peers.

Like his inability to surround Bron with talent isn't one of the reasons he's in Miami now :beli:
 

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Like his inability to surround Bron with talent isn't one of the reasons he's in Miami now :beli:

He surrounding Lebron with much better players than Bron had when he arrived. He made good trades. Trading nothing for Shaq. Getting Mo Williams for Damon Jones. Traded Big Z for A. Jamison which was a great trade at the time. Drafting JJ Hickson. The issue was he didn't have the pieces to land a star and no one wanted to come to Cleveland. They tired to land Amare? No. Bosh? No. Boozer :umad:

What did you want him to do? They were built perfectly around Bron's abilities. They just wasn't talented enough.

His biggest mistake was Larry Hughes. That was his only mistake in Cleveland. I felt he did a good job. I don't think he turned water into wine like Pat Riley did to LA but I think he did well.
 

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See what i mean about u hawks niqqas wetting ur pants, and getting excited over some sht that hasnt even happened yet
 

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Leave it to NY Knick fans nikkas to talk sh*t. I said if, not when. This is a hypothetical question.
 
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Word has it that Dwight and CP3 and testing all options and Atlanta is at the top of the list if we can get both players which is possible.

We also get to swap 2014 and 2015 picks with Brooklyn.

We also get to keep Lou and Horf as pieces and John Jenkins fits like a glove with Dwight and CP3. Not to mention we still have a MLE as well.

Danny Ferry can build a dynasty. They say Rome wasn't built in one day but they didn't have Danny Ferry getting the contracts to build. :obama:

My question to you is, if Ferry lands both CP3 and D12 is he the greatest GM of all time?

:dead: I've literally heard 0 reports of either player considering atlanta.
 

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He surrounding Lebron with much better players than Bron had when he arrived. He made good trades. Trading nothing for Shaq. Getting Mo Williams for Damon Jones. Traded Big Z for A. Jamison which was a great trade at the time. Drafting JJ Hickson. The issue was he didn't have the pieces to land a star and no one wanted to come to Cleveland. They tired to land Amare? No. Bosh? No. Boozer :umad:

What did you want him to do? They were built perfectly around Bron's abilities. They just wasn't talented enough.

His biggest mistake was Larry Hughes. That was his only mistake in Cleveland. I felt he did a good job. I don't think he turned water into wine like Pat Riley did to LA but I think he did well.

They could have had Amare but they didnt wanna give up Sczerbiaks expiring contract. That could have been a huge trade
 

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:dead: I've literally heard 0 reports of either player considering atlanta.

Broussard? Ain't nothing a fact till it happens. Ya'll love ESPN BS till it's about us like ya'll ignore it.

Let's look at the facts. I am coping and pasting this for the Hawks Basketball forum that some poster wrote so I can't take credit for this.





Al Horford ($12,000,000)

Lou Williams ($5,225,000)

John Jenkins ($1,258,800)

Draft pick #17 ($1,348,200, value for draft pick explained later)

Draft pick #18 ($1,280,800)

Tolly’s caphold ($884,293)

Incomplete roster charge (6x$490,180 = $3,431,260)

+ Mack's 760,000 and Scott's 789k - 980,360(2 players)= 568,512 +3,431,260

= 3,999,277





Al Horford ($12,000,000)

Lou Williams ($5,225,000)

John Jenkins ($1,258,800)

Draft pick #17 ($1,348,200, value for draft pick explained later)

Draft pick #18 ($1,280,800)

Tolly’s caphold ($884,293)

Mack 3rd year min salary(760k)

Scott 788,872 salary

Incomplete roster charge (4x$490,180 = $1,960,720)

Total salary is 25,651,190

We have two mid 2nd round picks which was 450k last year. That could be our 9th and 10th man and it would save us 100k.

Incomplete roster charge is only valid without a player. If we sign Howard and CP3, they would be our 9th and 10th man with the picks they would be our 11th and 12th man.

With the estimated cap at 58.5, we would have up to 32.8 in cap space.

We do not have a MLE right now since we are under the cap floor but we would have one if we signed both CP3 and Dwight.

It would be smart if Dwight and CP3 took less to play together. For starters, if they want Korver they would have to take 13.5 million(27 million) in their first year a piece. Korver can sign for 4 million and we could still use our MLE.

Most likely, CP3 and Dwight will sign for 15 mil a piece(30 million) which covers most of our cap and allows us to sign the min level players and a MLE player.

While Houston with some trades could offer Dwight the max and CP3's max right now. They really couldn't get both players not can Dallas.

Atlanta at the best will have to ask Dwight and CP3 to take 5 to 3 million dollars less than they can get in LA but give them 3-1 less than they can get elsewhere. Remember, Houston cannot offer Dwight close to what LA can due to the new CBA. Makes us a lot more competitive in this race.

Basically, Atlanta can easily sign D12 and CP3 and the min level players. The issue is Atlanta has to find ways to not sign them and be capped out. They need to get them to take less and buy into team before players, wins before accolades.

:patrice:
 

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did miami heat not sign lebron, bosh and resign wade in the same year as well as get ray allen, mike miller, etc
 
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