If God doesn't act, is he complicit?

[JesusFOREVER]

Then the only other conclusion is that God himself creates sinners.

He creates humans, humans create sin

see this chart: God creates Adam > Adam disobeys God > Adam thus creates sin

Unless you can post a scripture that states explicitly that God created Adam to sin and eat the fruit, go ahead im waiting

 

[Actually6Foot3]

No it didnt, you’re confusing all knowing with all controlling my guy, he knew Adam was gonna do it, he didn’t preset Adam with that destiny

Adam could have changed his destiny any time

but he knew if Adam would or would not eat it. He knowingly created a being that would disobey him. God created a sinner

 

[Actually6Foot3]

He creates humans, humans create sin

see this chart: God creates Adam > Adam disobeys God > Adam thus creates sin

Unless you can post a scripture that states explicitly that God created Adam to sin and eat the fruit, go ahead im waiting

the mere fact that God is all knowing and the Divine Creator is proof all in itself.

God creates Adam who he knows will eat the apple before he creates Adam > Adam proceeds to do as such > God created a sinner from scratch

 

[JesusFOREVER]

Bro if we treated children the way God treats humans we'd be locked up for child abuse

And thats why you arent God

 

[Monsanto]

for the pleasure of the lord God

folks constantly think about purpose but if the universe is eternal and time is just a measuring stick...what is purpose?

Given that Genesis 1 describes ALL of the heaven and the earth...it can be argued Adam and Eve are still being formed

Glad to see we think the same way. I'm doing some research on reunification process of people and their creations and this is where I've been leaning.

Everlasting glory can only occur when the power is circulated within a system (earth).

 

[Actually6Foot3]

Bro if we treated children the way God treats humans we'd be locked up for child abuse

imagine commiting mass genocide by flooding an Earth and your followers think it's a good thing

 

[JesusFOREVER]

but he knew if Adam would or would not eat it. He knowingly created a being that would disobey him. God created a sinner[/QUOTE]

can you prove how these two statements have any correlation? If you grew a tree that had dead leaves did you grow a dead tree?

 

[MMS]

Glad to see we think the same way. I'm doing some research on reunification process of people and their creations and this is where I've been leaning.

Everlasting glory can only occur when the power is circulated within a system (earth).

the more you meditate on genesis the crazier it gets

the allegories are describing things that happen AFTER genesis and during it...

There is a big difference in the way it reads by comparison with other parts of the bible. Even the story of Lot is wild if you consider it allegorically....his wife turning into a pillar of salt....could be an ongoing process (pawgin)

 

[JesusFOREVER]

the mere fact that God is all knowing and the Divine Creator is proof all in itself.

God creates Adam who he knows will eat the apple before he creates Adam > Adam proceeds to do as such > God created a sinner from scratch

Show me a scripture where it states God created Adam to eat the apple, last chance

 

[Actually6Foot3]

did God not create Adam?

 

[Actually6Foot3]

Show me a scripture where it states God created Adam to eat the apple, last chance

Strawman

Did God not create Adam? Does God not know Adams life from start to finish? If God knows Adams life from start to finish then God knows Adam will sin before he even creates Adam. And to create him anyway shows that God created a sinner from scratch.

 

[Drip Bayless]

An omnipotent being is a contradiction
Can God make a Boulder too strong for himself too move?
The only god that makes sense to me is Spinoza’s, but that would mean free will doesn’t exist

 

[MMS]

Show me a scripture where it states God created Adam to eat the apple, last chance

show me were it says Apple

The sealed scroll (Gen 1) is untouchable...

The fact that there is a contradiction between Gen 1 and 2 speaks to how much the serpent has affected the text

 

[JesusFOREVER]

Strawman

Did God not create Adam? Does God not know Adams life from start to finish?

you’ve still provided zero correlation or evidence that any of this means God made Adam sin, and thats the real question, Did God MAKE Adam sin or he did he choose to out of his own free will? No “well God created Adam and knew it would happen” yes or no question, did God make Adam sin or did Adam choose to? Im being generous here still discussing with you, because you’re clearly out of your depth and just repeating yourself like a fool who knows been trapped in his web of contradictions and lies

 

[Actually6Foot3]

you’ve still provided zero correlation or evidence that any of this means God made Adam sin, and thats the real question, Did God MAKE Adam sin or he did he choose to out of his own free will? No “well God created Adam and knew it would happen” yes or no question, did God make Adam sin or did Adam choose to? Im being generous here still discussing with you, because you’re clearly out of your depth and just repeating yourself like a fool who knows been trapped in his web of contradictions and lies

I said he knowingly made a sinner. Not that he forced the act of sin on him. Stop purposefully mixing my words.

I never said God made him eat the apple per say. I said God made Adam KNOWING HE WOULD sin before he even made him and as such God made a sinner.