Religion/Spirituality If God has a plan for everyone how do we have freewill?

[tmonster]

How can you hide behind "available evidence" when there's none?

none for what?

 

[tmonster]

Can't even properly explain what an (nonsensical)agnostic atheist is without tying yourself in knots

not even a single knot
look at this
I don't know if a god exists
I know for them sure all the gods that have been described to me do not exist

that was so freakin' easy

 

[Everythingg]

I'm aware of the ways certain animals can cause you harm and so I avoid them in most cases

You're just playing with words lol

Truth is, you're scared of elephants, rhinos, lions etc.. just like the rest of atheists are. Yet, you believe that you're going to step in front of the One that created these animals and tell Him off

I don't know much about god but from the depiction given we are not in harmony

Well if I am a back up singer and I want to stay on with the lead singer, I fix my tune to be in harmony with the lead singer. If not then thats the choice I make.Replace I with YOU since its not I that is making the choice to NOT fix my tune.

if because of said differences god decides to track me down and forcibly subject me to whatever form of eternal torture devised what can I do

Make a better choice?

I'm just enjoying my existence the best I can

Enjoy it while you can. Choosing the path to destruction willingly means that this is probably the best it will get for ya

so petty
just let me have my space b

Well since you chose Satan you'll have all the "space" you want in punishment if thats what The Almighty wills

my own little slice of heaven but no your not happy unless I'm prostrated before you
why can't we just turn up together forever and ever

Well if God Almighty wills I'll be turning up planet to planet like Enoch was

You chose the path to destruction so you cant do that and expect heaven

fukk going to church for eternity

Last I remember, Enoch wasnt witnessing "church" when he went to the heavens

let's hit the club
that never ending orgy
but shyt we got different ideas of a good time me and god I guess
murk nikkas for their differences*

Yep. Differences. Just as when I as a young child I wanted to stay out as late as I wanted. Thus, I had "differences" with my parents but since they are the parents, I had to listen or suffer the consequences. Same thing in our convo except with an Eternal Being who knows the ins and outs of your soul

 

[tmonster]

Now I now whenever I go to court make sure I go on Mon-Thurs because the burden is on the Prosecution to prove i did it (and once i add reasonable doubt i'm good)... Because on Friday I have to proof I didnt do it.

you should have known better
since atheists are known for their forgiving hearts I will let this slide but...

 

[tmonster]

If it's explained yet again, will you retain it?

highly unlikely!

 

[tmonster]

Even if christians don't know sht about god, the fact that you're open to god's existence makes it possible that god might have a plan right?

which god?

 

[010101]

You're just playing with words lol

Truth is, you're scared of elephants, rhinos, lions etc.. just like the rest of atheists are. Yet, you believe that you're going to step in front of the One that created these animals and tell Him off




Well if I am a back up singer and I want to stay on with the lead singer, I fix my tune to be in harmony with the lead singer. If not then thats the choice I make.Replace I with YOU since its not I that is making the choice to NOT fix my tune.


Make a better choice?



Enjoy it while you can. Choosing the path to destruction willingly means that this is probably the best it will get for ya



Well since you chose Satan you'll have all the "space" you want in punishment if thats what The Almighty wills



Well if God Almighty wills I'll be turning up planet to planet like Enoch was

You chose the path to destruction so you cant do that and expect heaven



Last I remember, Enoch wasnt witnessing "church" when he went to the heavens



Yep. Differences. Just as when I as a young child I wanted to stay out as late as I wanted. Thus, I had "differences" with my parents but since they are the parents, I had to listen or suffer the consequences. Same thing in our convo except with an Eternal Being who knows the ins and outs of your soul

I was raised differently i guess my parents never treated me as property
they allowed me to do as I please
the only authority in my life is my well being and sense of enjoyment

with god it seems the choice is binary it's either do as he pleases or suffer
that's not for me

tyrant dictator authoritarian
I'm fine with all those things
but to try and convince me that this is a god who loves me is simply ridiculous

no concern for the desire of anyone outside yourself ok

and I have no desire to tell god off

I'll be too busy laughing at the absurdity of his actions

but as of right now I'm pretty sure I have nothing to worry about
god is only a character in a book and the relationship cannot move beyond the confines of your imagination

what do you know of god outside of scriptures
what does anyone know of god outside of the realm of thought and imagination

whatever*

 

[gho3st]

not even a single knot
look at this
I don't know if a god exists
I know for them sure all the gods that have been described to me do not exist

that was so freakin' easy

I actually got no problem with this. And thats not what contortionists on here have described as agnostic atheist.


but you got to admit that once nikkas start calling themselves agnostic atheists and try explaining it, shyt quickly devolves to

...

 

[hayesc0]

not even a single knot
look at this
I don't know if a god exists
I know for them sure all the gods that have been described to me do not exist

that was so freakin' easy

I know right this nikka is delusional i said the same thing he is truly a smart dumb person we know we dont have all the answers unlike religious people we are able to look at things such as the bible objectively it constantly contradicts itself and many of the things presented as fact in it have been dis proven.

 

[gho3st]

I know right this nikka is delusional i said the same thing he is truly a smart dumb person we know we dont have all the answers unlike religious people we are able to look at things such as the bible objectively it constantly contradicts itself and many of the things presented as fact in it have been dis proven.

you said the same thing? like i said all you nikkas got different definition for agnostic atheist.
this

It means you are opened to the possibility of the existence of god but based on the available evidence you don't believe god exist.

is not the same as

I don't know if a god exists
I know for them sure all the gods that have been described to me do not exist

and i'm the smart dumb nikka.


and that's still not agnostic atheist definition he gave b4 which is why he switched the wording

 

[Everythingg]

I was raised differently i guess my parents never treated me as property
they allowed me to do as I please

Either you're lying or your parents were terrible parents who I shouldnt even refer to as your "parents"

What kind of parent allows their child to do as they please? Bad ones thats who But you're still "allowed"to do as you please now. Which is why you're choosing the path to destruction instead of the path that the prophets and servants of God Almighty exemplified for you

the only authority in my life is my well being and sense of enjoyment

Once you give your life then take it back, THEN I'll believe you're the authority

with god it seems the choice is binary it's either do as he pleases or suffer
that's not for me

It is for you lol.Since you exist, it is for you friend

tyrant dictator authoritarian
I'm fine with all those things
but to try and convince me that this is a god who loves me is simply ridiculous

Why wouldnt a Being who loved you and who knew what was best for you(since this Being created ALL things), WANT you to obey Him for your own good?

no concern for the desire of anyone outside yourself ok

Nothing in my post exemplified that

and I have no desire to tell god off

I'll be too busy laughing at the absurdity of his actions

You're scared of lions, bears, and elephants You're not going to be laughing at ANYTHING when face to face with the One that created you

but as of right now I'm pretty sure I have nothing to worry about

Hitler was "pretty sure" he was going to rule the world too

god is only a character in a book and the relationship cannot move beyond the confines of your imagination

Israel existing again as that "myth"book said it would is my imagination as well, right?

what do you know of god outside of scriptures

So God Almighty gives you a book so you can know Him and you want to know something thats outside of the book? If I gave you a book so that you could pass my test for physics, would it be required that you know something OUTSIDE of the book for the test?

what does anyone know of god outside of the realm of thought and imagination

whatever*

We know Israel exists just as he said it would

 

[Everythingg]

According to Christians the bible was divine if im not mistaken the word of god written by man which makes no sense to me to be honest why would a supreme being need different people to write the bible for him. Thats what I just said you are agreeing with me lol based on the available evidence from the major religions I don't believe god exist I am open to the possibility because I realize I don't know everything at the same time I consider myself a rational thinker.

Who said the Supreme Being "NEEDED" different people to write the bible for Him? Is that written in the "divine bible"?

 

[010101]

Either you're lying or your parents were terrible parents who I shouldnt even refer to as your "parents"

What kind of parent allows their child to do as they please? Bad ones thats who But you're still "allowed"to do as you please now. Which is why you're choosing the path to destruction instead of the path that the prophets and servants of God Almighty exemplified for you



Once you give your life then take it back, THEN I'll believe you're the authority



It is for you lol.Since you exist, it is for you friend



Why wouldnt a Being who loved you and who knew what was best for you(since this Being created ALL things), WANT you to obey Him for your own good?



Nothing in my post exemplified that



You're scared of lions, bears, and elephants You're not going to be laughing at ANYTHING when face to face with the One that created you



Hitler was "pretty sure" he was going to rule the world too



Israel existing again as that "myth"book said it would is my imagination as well, right?



So God Almighty gives you a book so you can know Him and you want to know something thats outside of the book? If I gave you a book so that you could pass my test for physics, would it be required that you know something OUTSIDE of the book for the test?



We know Israel exists just as he said it would

some things are based on observable reality
some things are based on pure human imagination

you have your faith and you have a right to that
I don't believe

I either know or I don't

plus like I said what I want and what god wants are two different things seemingly

I would simply go in my own direction but that's not an option so I guess I'm just waiting for that hot fiyah +

 

[God Almighty]

And now I've killed Leonard Nimoy! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[010101]

And now I've killed Leonard Nimoy! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

keep it real you're a goon

why they tryna convince me you some typa lovey dovey peace goodwill cat

god you a ill motherfukker if you wanna be honest+