If Jay Z never hooked up with Beyonce, what would his position be right now?

[Mike Otherz]

I keep seeing this idea passed around as a truth, that jays status today is cause of Beyonce. I want us to test this out and see if it holds water and if it does was it for the better.

So they hooked up in 2002. Jay in 2002 was acknowledged as hip hops leader. Sure nas just defeated him in a battle but The Blueprint was a critical success that put Jay on a higher plane as as artist.

How would jays life have been any different from that point if they never hooked up.

Sure she made him a celebrity, but is that really something to be desired, especially since celebrity culture is so toxic. If anything, I'm surprised jay took to that life since he always professed he was so private.

 

[ciubaca]

 

[2CT]

The Booth in 2016 y'all

 

[A.V.]

 

[NegaDuck]

Nah...he wouldnt

 

[Kal-El]

In 2010 or 2011 I was Europe trying to get a teaching license so I could work overseas.. Anyway I'm with a group of older people and see this flyer of Jay-Z concert. I stop and say damn I wish I could go. This white older cat asked me go where! I told him to the Jay concert... He looked at me and said Jay-Z? isn't he married to Beyonce? In my mind I was like Damn....50 never lied when he said overseas he's known as Beyonces husband.


Shiit fukked me up

 

[Ineedmoney504]

In 2010 or 2011 I was Europe trying to get a teaching license so I could work overseas.. Anyway I'm with a group of older people and see this flyer of Jay-Z concert. I stop and say damn I wish I could go. This white older cat asked me go where! I told him to the Jay concert... He looked at me and said Jay-Z? isn't he married to Beyonce? In my mind I was like Damn....50 never lied when he said overseas he's known as Beyonces husband.


Shiit fukked me up

U think that same old white man knew who 50 ect. Is? Ask a hip hop fan from Europe if they know who jay was. I'm pretty much 100% they do. That comparison is silly. Old whites in America barley know who he, Wayne and whoever the most popular artist.


But anyway jayZ did more for Beyoncé solo career then the other way around

 

[bigbadbossup2012]

Amongst the top like he's been since 98'

 

[Boolean]

Sure she made him a celebrity.

Is this some passive aggressive hate thread?

 

[HE_Pennypacker]

Lol the question is the wrong way around

 

[big bun]

In 2010 or 2011 I was Europe trying to get a teaching license so I could work overseas.. Anyway I'm with a group of older people and see this flyer of Jay-Z concert. I stop and say damn I wish I could go. This white older cat asked me go where! I told him to the Jay concert... He looked at me and said Jay-Z? isn't he married to Beyonce? In my mind I was like Damn....50 never lied when he said overseas he's known as Beyonces husband.


Shiit fukked me up

This is the worst post in a horrible ass thread.

 

[KingOFKings]

There is truth to this thread, don't sleep.

Jay is not as popular as you'd like to think.

 

[Lil Bape the PostGod]

I don't know.

He probably would've never got those season floor seats for the Brooklyn nets

oh, and he might not have been a part of tidal either

 

[Harry B]

This is a weird question, we don't know what would happen to any of them. If Jay never met Ty-ty he might've been working at Microsoft for all we know.
When they first got together they both did the same numbers and they've been doing the same numbers since then in terms of sales. Sometimes Jay moves more, sometimes less at least in the US.

No one is buying Jay-z albums due to Beyonce or vice versa. And his business moves have nothing to do with Beyonce, more like Steve Stoute, Jay Brown and those type of people. As far as international fame outside of music, yes Beyonce has obviously helped that. Just like it has helped Beyonce by being in a "power couple".

And her letting Jay-z takeover her career from her father was the best thing she ever did in terms of focusing on putting out dope music, real issues and becoming a respected legend instead of a girly airhead who just put out a bunch of mediocre hits in which she had no creative input. No one knows what changed that.

In 2010 or 2011 I was Europe trying to get a teaching license so I could work overseas.. Anyway I'm with a group of older people and see this flyer of Jay-Z concert. I stop and say damn I wish I could go. This white older cat asked me go where! I told him to the Jay concert... He looked at me and said Jay-Z? isn't he married to Beyonce? In my mind I was like Damn....50 never lied when he said overseas he's known as Beyonces husband.


Shiit fukked me up

Is that why he's been filling tours and headlining festivals for like 10 years in several European countries . Cause unknown people usually do that.


What has helped Jay-z the most is him putting out big pop songs, that's what takes your world wide. Dirt off your shoulder targets hiphop fans, ESOM and Forever Young etc targets pop fans. But in 2016, any dope hiphop targets pop fans.

 

[Kal-El]

LOL.....cats coming at my sideways cuz a 50 year old white guy asked me if Hov is married to Beyonce. You nikkas is lame.

Obviously 50 got a point cuz If people wouldn't know Bey they would of never heard about Hov.