If Lebron james is the best Player of His Generation, who's the 2nd Best?

[stepbackj34spud]

07-08 til 2015 was LeBrons reign. Kobe was not better than LeBron at any period during that stretch.

2x MVP Steph Curry currently being exposed

Lol at using Mvps

So you want me to post some of the shytty games Kobe had against Boston in the Finals? 7-24 in a game 7?lol
If anything, the way these guys play in the finals(LeBron, kobe and Steph) shows you how far awy they are to Jordan. I never want to hear anybody compare these dude to Jordan again. Jordan never scored under 20 in a finals game.

 

[Trece]

LeBron has been the best player in the league since 2007.. Kobe stans are the absolute fukking worse.

You dont get to say Lebron has been the best player in the league since 2007 when Kobe Bryant was alive on planet earth during that time and took his team to three straight NBA Finals and won two back to back championships from 2008-2010. He also won MVP and led team USA to gold after Bron led them to Bronze in 2004 and 2006.

So get the fukk out of there with this bullshyt.. this isnt even stanning this is a common fact.. i dont know what kind of a stan you are (lebron or duncan) but you are just straight up lying.

Most NBA players including Lebrons side piece and best friend Wade has even said Kobe is the best player of his generation.

Lebron best player reign has been from 2011-2015 thats it... and i being nice about 2011 considering he played like the biggest fakkit in sports history against the Mavs in 2011.

 

[stepbackj34spud]

You dont get to say Lebron has been the best player in the league since 2007 when Kobe Bryant was alive on planet earth during that time and took his team to three straight NBA Finals and won two back to back championships from 2008-2010. He also won MVP and led team USA to gold after Bron led them to Bronze in 2004 and 2006.

So get the fukk out of there with this bullshyt.. this isnt even stanning this is a common fact.. i dont know what kind of a stan you are (lebron or duncan) but you are just straight up lying.

Most NBA players including Lebrons side piece and best friend Wade has even said Kobe is the best player of his generation.

Lebron best player reign has been from 2011-2015 thats it... and i being nice about 2011 considering he played like the biggest fakkit in sports history against the Mavs in 2011.

Lol Kobe fan logic. Didn't read. Ignore list.

 

[Lord_Chief_Rocka]

Y'all really gotta chill with this Duncan is a roll player shyt. Also Duncan was the best player from 03-07

 

[Lord_Chief_Rocka]

You dont get to say Lebron has been the best player in the league since 2007 when Kobe Bryant was alive on planet earth during that time and took his team to three straight NBA Finals and won two back to back championships from 2008-2010. He also won MVP and led team USA to gold after Bron led them to Bronze in 2004 and 2006.

So get the fukk out of there with this bullshyt.. this isnt even stanning this is a common fact.. i dont know what kind of a stan you are (lebron or duncan) but you are just straight up lying.

Most NBA players including Lebrons side piece and best friend Wade has even said Kobe is the best player of his generation.

Lebron best player reign has been from 2011-2015 thats it... and i being nice about 2011 considering he played like the biggest fakkit in sports history against the Mavs in 2011.

But you're right about that. But the same disrespect Lebron fans giving Kobe for 08-10 is what Kobe stans are giving Duncan for 03-07

 

[Lord_Chief_Rocka]

The answer to the OP's question is Duncan.


You want to count accolades?

Three-time All-American
AP, Wooden, and Naismith Player of the Year
Rookie of the Year
15 All-NBA teams (1st all-time), including 10 years 1st-team All-NBA (3rd all-time)
15 All-Defensive teams (1st all-time), including 8 years 1st-team All-Defense (5th all-time) - and he deserved his
15 All-Star appearances (2nd all-time), including an All-Star MVP
2 MVPs (9th all-time), 2 runner-up finishes, 9 times in the top-5 in voting and 12 times in the top-8



You want to count postseason success?

241 playoff games (3rd all-time)
5th all-time in playoff scoring, 3rd all-time in playoff rebounds, 1st all-time in playoff blocks
6 NBA Finals appearances, including 5 championships
3 Finals MVPs (2nd all-time)



You want to count traditional statistics?

2nd in NBA in points scored in 2002, 14th in scoring in NBA history
Top-10 in NBA in FG% six times
Led NBA in rebounds in 2002, top-5 in rebounds 11 times, 6th in rebounds in NBA history
2nd in NBA in blocks in 2003, top-5 in blocks 7 times and top-10 in blocks 15 times, 5th in blocks in NBA history



You want to count advanced stats?

2nd in NBA in PER three times, top-5 in PER 9 times and top-10 in PER 13 times, 13th in PER in NBA history
Led NBA in defensive rating 4 times, top-4 in defensive rating 15 times, 2nd in defensive rating in NBA history
Led NBA in win shares twice, top-4 in win shares 8 times, 6th in win shares in NBA history

I thought this was Lbj generation. Duncan ain't really in LBJ gen

If we talking careers TD>LBJ

 

[Newzz]

hasnt hit the 20ppg mark in 11 years.. played with 3 hall of famers his whole career.

 

[pickles]

Russell Westbrook



/end this fukken thread.

 

[Newzz]

only time they faced in the playoffs, without shaq, while both in their primes was 2008 WCF
Lakers won in 5
Kobe - 29.2 | 5.6 | 3.8 | 53% FG
Duncan 22.4 | 17.3 | 4.8 | 42% FG

Duncan had Parker, Ginobli, Bowen, Finley, Horry, Kurt Thomas, Brent Barry all in their primes.
Kobe had Gasol, Farmar, Walton, Turiaf, Ariza, Radmonovic, Odom and still dismantled the Spurs

truth hurts

In years with Shaq

in 2004 Lakers 4-2
Kobe 26.3. | 6.3 | 5.8
Shaq 22.5 | 14.3 | 2.0
Duncan 20.7 | 12.2 | 3.3

in 2002 Lakers Won 4-1
Kobe 26.2 | 5.4 | 4.8
Shaq 21.2 |12.3 | 3.2
Duncan 29.0 | 17.0 | 3.2

in 2001 Lakers Won 4-0
Kobe 33.3 | 7.0 | 7.1
Shaq 27.3 | 13.0 | 3.2
Duncan 23.2 |12.4 | 3.1

Truth Hurts. Kobe was better than Duncan in every metric you can use.

 

[Newzz]

Nikka you are 17 fall back and STFU

 

[SuaveHooper88]

cant be the best of your generation with 5 finals losses

1992-1998 - Jordan Era
1999-2003 - Shaw, Duncan, Kobe
2004-2010- Kobe
2011 -2014 - LeBron
2015- Steph

Lebron has been better than kobe since his 2005. There was NEVER any kobe era.

In fact you could argue Lebron was the best player in the league SINCE 2005.

In 2005 lebron averaged 27 ppg 7 rbs 7 ast at the age of 19. He was the best player in the game period

There is no season since 2005 where ANY individual player was better than lebron period.

2005 - now is Lebron Era and still is Lebron era

 

[Newzz]

You were 5 in 03,

Tired of seeing them talk down on Kobe when they weren't even old enough to stay up and watch a Lakers game

 

[Kobes Two Jerseys]

Tired of seeing them talk down on Kobe when they weren't even old enough to stay up and watch a Lakers game

Chances are, they still aren't. Having to take the trash after dinner and shyt.

 

[Mantis Toboggan M.D.]

The answer to the OP's question is Duncan.


You want to count accolades?

Three-time All-American
AP, Wooden, and Naismith Player of the Year
Rookie of the Year
15 All-NBA teams (1st all-time), including 10 years 1st-team All-NBA (3rd all-time)
15 All-Defensive teams (1st all-time), including 8 years 1st-team All-Defense (5th all-time) - and he deserved his
15 All-Star appearances (2nd all-time), including an All-Star MVP
2 MVPs (9th all-time), 2 runner-up finishes, 9 times in the top-5 in voting and 12 times in the top-8



You want to count postseason success?

241 playoff games (3rd all-time)
5th all-time in playoff scoring, 3rd all-time in playoff rebounds, 1st all-time in playoff blocks
6 NBA Finals appearances, including 5 championships
3 Finals MVPs (2nd all-time)



You want to count traditional statistics?

2nd in NBA in points scored in 2002, 14th in scoring in NBA history
Top-10 in NBA in FG% six times
Led NBA in rebounds in 2002, top-5 in rebounds 11 times, 6th in rebounds in NBA history
2nd in NBA in blocks in 2003, top-5 in blocks 7 times and top-10 in blocks 15 times, 5th in blocks in NBA history



You want to count advanced stats?

2nd in NBA in PER three times, top-5 in PER 9 times and top-10 in PER 13 times, 13th in PER in NBA history
Led NBA in defensive rating 4 times, top-4 in defensive rating 15 times, 2nd in defensive rating in NBA history
Led NBA in win shares twice, top-4 in win shares 8 times, 6th in win shares in NBA history

All of this is true, but I have Duncan in a separate generation. He is 8-9 years older than LeBron after all. Best of his though.

 

[High quality poster]

Lebron has been better than kobe since his 2005. There was NEVER any kobe era.

In fact you could argue Lebron was the best player in the league SINCE 2005.

In 2005 lebron averaged 27 ppg 7 rbs 7 ast at the age of 19. He was the best player in the game period

There is no season since 2005 where ANY individual player was better than lebron period.

2005 - now is Lebron Era and still is Lebron era

Yea, ok buddy. if that helps you sleep well at night.