If Mayweather fights Martinez AND Alvarez, will that make up for not fighting PacMan?

[Skip b]

I dont like Floyd.. but you are on point

Mayweather just didnt have great fighters to fight. Some of it was him waiting to long to fight somebody like Mosely in their prime.. but it just wasnt in the cards for his division I guess..

Boxing on the whole is just for the most part.

Actually Mayweather always called out the best nobody was rushing to fight him, until he became the Oscar De La Hoya of the sport he was ducked a high risk low reward fighter, we have videos of Floyd calling out tszyu, Vivian Harris, prime Mosley, He wanted to move from 140 to 154 for Winky, prime Cotto ducked, Pacquiao blatantly ducked him worse than BHOP ducking a Roy rematch, Canelo people refused Mayweather last year, those people all ducked but nothing get said about that, what more do all want from Mayweather, seriously

 

[Newzz]

Besides weight and power what skills does Canelo and Martinez possess to trouble Floyd, and how does that skill set make them better Floyd opponents than Matthysse or Garcia, I'll wait??????????......................





















Truth is if people were being honest with themselves no one really thinks Canelo or Martinez is anywhere near floyds skill level, they only want the fight because they will outweigh floyd by almost 25-30 pounds.

But he's a B fighter though


Sergio Martinez aint a more skilled boxer than LM or Danny Garcia now?

 

[mson]

No.

He missed the Pac train, like other fighters he missed, and Martinez aint the same anymore. Also, they want to drain Canelo down to 147

Floyd regardless is the King of his era....but all his ducks will affect his all-time standing amongst the other Kings of boxing.

What other fighters did he miss?

 

[L. Deezy]

Actually Mayweather always called out the best nobody was rushing to fight him, until he became the Oscar De La Hoya of the sport he was ducked a high risk low reward fighter, we have videos of Floyd calling out tszyu, Vivian Harris, prime Mosley, He wanted to move from 140 to 154 for Winky, prime Cotto ducked, Pacquiao blatantly ducked him worse than BHOP ducking a Roy rematch, Canelo people refused Mayweather last year, those people all ducked but nothing get said about that, what more do all want from Mayweather, seriously

whoa, BHOP did not duck Roy. Roy wanted a huge split in the money. thats all that was ever about.

fukk Roy

 

[Newzz]

Go tell a casual fan that Canelo, who's biggest win is against Trout, is fighting Floyd, you'll get a lot of blank stares. Now tell them to Google him and let his "interviews" sell himself, you'll get even more. Nobody outside of die hards know him. Thats why all his fights are in Mexico or near the border. He can't go to Atlantic City and do numbers. He can't even go to NY and do numbers. Yet you seem to think that fight is easy to sale? Ok.

Floyd only fights in Vegas though so AC and NY are irrelevant.


Also, Alvarez is WAYYYY more popular than Guerrero and Ortiz....and has the entire country of Mexico behind him.


That is the biggest fight currently available and would go as Floyds biggest PPV draw since Hatton easily

 

[Dr Dre's ProductionSkills]

why to people assume FLOYD WANTS TO FIGHT SERGIO OR CANELO

HAVE YOU NOT BEEN LISTENING TO HIS DADDY... they are TOO BIG for floyd...

floyd can take ANY FIGHT HE WANTS TO CEMENT HIS LEGACY.. HE DONT WANT THESE FIGHTS FOR WHATEVER REASON.. THE SAME REASON HE DIDNT WANT PAC...

if floyd wanted the fights they would get done tommorw no questions asked...

FLOYD MIGHT BE BACKED INTO CANELO EVENTUALLY BUT IT WILL BE THEN THAT THE PUBLIC WILL SKEWER HIM CAUSE THIS WILL BE DUCK NUMBER 2...

how on earth are bums like ortiz and guerrero were chosen over a fight like martinez TELLS YOU THAT FLOYD DONT WANT THAT FIGHT EVER...

 

[Skip b]

But he's a B fighter though


Sergio Martinez aint a more skilled boxer than LM or Danny Garcia now?

Who the fukk has Sergio beat, a manufactured champ that beat the prime out of him in Chavez, a blown up WW in P Williams, going life and death with a alcoholic post bhop Pavlik and put on his ass being saved by a fluke cut, while a prime Pavlik couldn't win a round on a 40 year old BHOP. There is a reason Sergio has been fighting Euro bums for like 3 years now, looking average dropped time after time, not to mention his Pacquaio JMM 3 like robbery he received in his fight last month. Sergio aint shyt, and I have said this since day one here. Elite fighters dont lose to Margarito, and get put on they ass vs euro bums in about 50% of his last 9 fights



But why dont you answer my question though, what in Canelo or Martinez skill set make them better opponents than Garcia or Matthysse , you Black Jesus, PatScorpio whoever, i'll wait.............................

 

[Dr Dre's ProductionSkills]

Floyd only fights in Vegas though so AC and NY are irrelevant.


Also, Alvarez is WAYYYY more popular than Guerrero and Ortiz....and has the entire country of Mexico behind him.


That is the biggest fight currently available and would go as Floyds biggest PPV draw since Hatton easily

if floyd had a loss i gurantee you he would be fighting pacman , canelo, martinez .. all day... no choice CAUSE HE GOTTA MAKE MONEY AND THUS TAKE RISKS TO MAKE MONEY...

now cause he has that protected ZERO on his record he can take no risks and still make his money ... WHY .. CAUSE THERE IS A SEGMENT OF THE BOXING POPULATION THAT WANTS TO SEE HIM LOSE BUT CANT REGISTER THAT HIS CURRENT OPPONENTS ARE BEING PICKED TO GIVE FLOYD THE LOWEST CHANCE OF LOSING...

THERE IS ALSO ANOTHER PART OF THAT BOXING COMMUNITY THAT WANTS TO WATCH FLOYD SPAR AGAINST OVERMATCHED FIGHTERS WHO POSE NO THREAT AND BASICALLY A GLORIFED SPARRING SESSION AND CALL IT "BLACK EXCELLENCE" OR "THE MASTER OF HIS CRAFT" AT WORK...yet not realizing or caring that hes doing it against guys who HE HAS SELECTED THAT POSE NO REAL THREAT...

again FLOYD IS THE SMARTEST MAN IN THE ROOM BOXING WISE... THERE IS A REASON THE ORTIZ GUERERROS ARE GETTING THESE FIGHTS AND NOT OTHER THREATS...


you would think floyd fans would be harder on their superstar to show his skills against the best but yet they ride with him (OFTEN TIMES TO EMBARRASSING LENGHTS) TO support or understand his "point of view"...

a loss on floyd record would mean all those atg matchups he could make now would get done in a second... and the funny part is losses on records aint mean anything if you had a good showing or if the match up is good... its why the ufc is neck and neck with boxing...

 

[King P]

Floyd only fights in Vegas though so AC and NY are irrelevant.


Also, Alvarez is WAYYYY more popular than Guerrero and Ortiz....and has the entire country of Mexico behind him.


That is the biggest fight currently available and would go as Floyds biggest PPV draw since Hatton easily

Exactly. Mexicans actually support Canelo cuz he is actually one of them unlike Ortiz & Guerrero.

And I know casual boxing fans who know Canelo is. His popularity is rising.

If PBF and Pac cant come to terms, Canelo is the next best thing, and that will be a big pay day.

Biggest draw since Hatton? I coulda sworn Cotto was a bigger draw.

 

[seemorecizzy]

So we've moved from the "find somebody better to beat Floyd" to the 'find somebody bigger to beat Floyd" stance, huh? Now his career comes down to whether or not he fights a Mexican who can't speak English (realistically how is this fight gonna be sold to the buying public??) who comes into a fight as a light heavyweight? Or whether he fights a guy who is two weight classes north that just got dropped twice at home in a showcase fight against a guy he was supposed to steamroll? Stop with these random "boogey men" that get a lil spark and then hide behind the "Floyd is ducking" mantra. What happened to the days of a fighter earning it.....ala Floyd? You want Floyd spot? Well go get it! Regardless of weight, gloves, ring size, purse size, etc....GO GET IT! Floyd did with Oscar. Nowadays a guy get a few wins under his belt and then all of a sudden, if Floyd doesn't run over and put out the fire (regardless of the demands) he's all of a sudden ducking. Boxing is dying because of its fans. Terrible.

so much truth in this post

like i mentioned here before, ppl do not care WHO is it, or HOW much he weighs, or whether it's a fair fight or not, They want a L on his record before he retires. period.

almost every other big name fighter ever was allowed to dictate his terms against the lesser opponent and it was all good, but with floyd it's ducking.

never heard one person say oscar was wrong for making floyd come all the way up to 154 and to nitpick over gloves, ring size, drug test etc

it is what it is

 

[Dr Dre's ProductionSkills]

Who the fukk has Sergio beat, a manufactured champ that beat the prime out of him in Chavez, a blown up WW in P Williams, going life and death with a alcoholic post bhop Pavlik and put on his ass being saved by a fluke cut, while a prime Pavlik couldn't win a round on a 40 year old BHOP. There is a reason Sergio has been fighting Euro bums for like 3 years now, looking average dropped time after time, not to mention his Pacquaio JMM 3 like robbery he received in his fight last month. Sergio aint shyt, and I have said this since day one here. Elite fighters dont lose to Margarito, and get put on they ass vs euro bums in about 50% of his last 9 fights



But why dont you answer my question though, what in Canelo or Martinez skill set make them better opponents than Garcia or Matthysse , you Black Jesus, PatScorpio whoever, i'll wait.............................

uh.. first off martinez at least has been doing it longer and been a champ longer...

canelo is whatever imo but the trout win and THE HYPE ABOUT HIM makes him out of all 4 the most lucrative option for floyd... the fact that he is gbp newest face/star tells you somehting...

you rip on sergio CAUSE HE HAS A HISTORY OF TAKING TOUGH FIGHTS AND PICK EM FIGHTS OR FIGHTS HE WAS UNDERDAWG.... and won... matthysse while he had a good recent win go back and look at his skillset against people in his own division... martinez went to 160 and willing to come down to 154

again fight never happens cause floyds daddy has already told you.. floyd is too small... so stop with the pipe dreams...

 

[Skip b]

whoa, BHOP did not duck Roy. Roy wanted a huge split in the money. thats all that was ever about.

fukk Roy

BHOp blatantly ducked the fight Roy was the draw, and he beat him already, and on live HBO Roy said agree to 60/40 and you get your ass kicked and BHOP was like

 

[Skip b]

uh.. first off martinez at least has been doing it longer and been a champ longer...

canelo is whatever imo but the trout win and THE HYPE ABOUT HIM makes him out of all 4 the most lucrative option for floyd... the fact that he is gbp newest face/star tells you somehting...

you rip on sergio CAUSE HE HAS A HISTORY OF TAKING TOUGH FIGHTS AND PICK EM FIGHTS OR FIGHTS HE WAS UNDERDAWG.... and won... matthysse while he had a good recent win go back and look at his skillset against people in his own division... martinez went to 160 and willing to come down to 154

again fight never happens cause floyds daddy has already told you.. floyd is too small... so stop with the pipe dreams...

What tough fight has Sergio took?????????????

If Sergio could mak 154 for Floyd, how come he said he cant make 154 for Canelo

 

[L. Deezy]

BHOp blantantly ducked the fight Roy was the draw, and he beat him already, and on live HBO Roy said agree to 60/40 now and you get your ass kicked and BHOP was like

roy jones and hopkins.3gp - YouTube

this was fresh off his Trinidad massacre.. and BHOP was right. it should have been 50/50

Roy hadnt done jack shyt to deserve a bigger piece of the pie. BHOP was on FIRE!

 

[Dr Dre's ProductionSkills]

What tough fight has Sergio took?????????????

oh dear god...

he ran to 160 to run away from the 154 division...wtf


yeah he ran to 160 to gain the ring middleweight title and be the lineal champ... WHAT A PU22AY