If rappers don't write their own rhymes, rapping becomes meaningless

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I simply can't bump a guy's catalogue that's written by other people.

Rap music is street poetry with groove. If we found out today that Seamus Heaney didn't write his own poetry, he'd be stripped of his titles overnight.

It's a big deal.

When you're singing, that can be anyone's song. And there's power in that, because it's a 'shared' communal experience. It's meant to be broad. But when you're rapping, it comes from you directly. No filter. That's what makes rap so powerful; it's highly specific. To have someone else write your rhymes defeats the whole point of rapping.

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I couldn't agree more b

I look at Ye different now, I mean I messed wit Ye heavy and I still like his earlier stuff but I just look at him like Dre or Puff now honestly. He can never be up there with the greats for me
 

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Busta Rhymes was talking about this on icet's podcast. How there's rapper right now that everyone thinks is the nicest but he has a team of writers.

Ghostwriting is the steroids of rap music. Everyone's using it but people will swear they never have and never will.

Someone like Kanye, I look at it as a collection of people putting together a product and he's the face of it. It doesn't bother me cause I really enjoy his music I just won't be able to put him in my top 10. I think most mainstream rappers have help with lyrics or even songs written for them(even Kendrick or J. Cole)


I remember someone posting an article about some rapper that got signed, right after he was ushered into a room with a bunch of writers who all were putting together lyrics an melodies. With the amount of money that this music generates there not going to risk it on one guy. They will use his image and fans though.
 

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It depends on who the artist is and how good the rhymes are. I couldn't listen to a whole album of someone spitting someone else's bars though, and I could never look at rappers with ghostwriters as legends. There's nothing wrong with someone helping you with certain things while you're writing though.
 
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Busta Rhymes was talking about this on icet's podcast. How there's rapper right now that everyone thinks is the nicest but he has a team of writers.

hes talkin about drake
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no coincidence his entire flow lyrics music in general swicthed heavy after the YM beef

now all he does is reapeat boy/girl yell liiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiike thiiiiiiiiiiis :heh:
 

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Rappers Delight, was written by a black woman, that worked for the mob. Now what are you going to do with your little paradigm?

i wanted to automatically neg you but i figure it would be better to engage you

where did you learn your anecdote regarding hip-hop history from?
Bars is just as one aspect to rapping though. Certain rappers have that flair to them that other dudes just can't replicate. Like if Cons rapped the same shyt he wrote for Ye, it wouldn't sound as nice as Ye rapping it.

i understand your point but its easy to work on flair or annunciation etc if you aint writing the words

all i got from your comment was that you like kanyes voice more. which i agree but im not inclined to side with kanye because i like his voice more
 

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Busta Rhymes was talking about this on icet's podcast. How there's rapper right now that everyone thinks is the nicest but he has a team of writers.

Ghostwriting is the steroids of rap music. Everyone's using it but people will swear they never have and never will.

Someone like Kanye, I look at it as a collection of people putting together a product and he's the face of it. It doesn't bother me cause I really enjoy his music I just won't be able to put him in my top 10. I think most mainstream rappers have help with lyrics or even songs written for them(even Kendrick or J. Cole)


I remember someone posting an article about some rapper that got signed, right after he was ushered into a room with a bunch of writers who all were putting together lyrics an melodies. With the amount of money that this music generates there not going to risk it on one guy. They will use his image and fans though.




Drake has a team of writers. This is FACT.
 

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i wanted to automatically neg you but i figure it would be better to engage you

where did you learn your anecdote regarding hip-hop history from?

yeah i was reading that and thought it wasnt too accurate,.
didnt sugarhill borrow the rhymes from someone ... i forget
 
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