The Dust King
A Childrens Story
could you link me and give me proof of this common knowledge that sylvia wrote the song
If rappers don't write their own rhymes, rapping becomes meaningless
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could you link me and give me proof of this common knowledge that sylvia wrote the song
Entrapta310
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Blame T.I.
Eazy E tried bringing a white female rapper into the game, and Ice Cube shut her shyt down. Even wrote Cave bytch.
Then years later you had Fergie and Gwen Stefani in the public eye rapping.
Then Jay signed that british midget Lady SOveriegn and failed.... it s was just a matter aog time that someone tried the formula again.
T.I. succeeded with the $$$ but fukk no is his protege the real deal.
JuvenileHell
Veteran
Only nikkas I can give a pass for having ghostwriters are producers
If we're gonna say its okay for rappers to have their shyt ghostwritten for them yall can have this shyt.
If we're gonna say its okay for rappers to have their shyt ghostwritten for them yall can have this shyt.
Atsym Sknyfs
Superstar
Yea.. Caz wrote Hank's verse.. Actually he didnt write hank's verse. he gave Sylvia a verse out his book.. Hank was so stupid he didnt even change the name he was spelling
That is false.
J.cole writes his own. Sometimes he gets writers to write on hooks (he gives those people their writing credits), but he writes his verses alone.
I think Kendrick writes his own stuff too, Idk.
I've heard about Kanye using ghost writers. Drake & his friends/people under his lable write things for & with him, I've heard, I'm sure he writes by himself sometimes too. Nicki has/had people writing for her sometimes (her ex).
I don't mind rappers getting help with their hooks/chorus or the singing parts in their songs. They should be able to write their verses alone though.
HUH? Your interpretation is off the charts and has nothing to do with the concept of this thread.
First of all, I don't give a fukk about Bruce Springsteen or Billy Joel. They're not hip hop. The only thing they have in common with Jay-Z and Nas is that they're legacy artists.
However, no one expects Bruce Springsteen to write all his own shyt or Billy Joel. They're measured against a completely different set of metrics. They're singers and instrumentalists, which I covered in the first post if you read it.
The overall point is - if you're an artist, and want to make a living as an artist, then be an artist. You can't have other people craft your shyt for you.
And if you're not writing your own rhymes (which inherently means you're not designing the flows either because they go hand-in-hand), then what the fukk are you really doing?
Bruce Springsteen at the end of the day is still going into the booth and doing what he made himself famous for: making up songs, playing his instruments, singing his songs, etc.
The Dust King
A Childrens Story
i think caz wrote mike and gee verse too. its always been my feelings
torcher
Superstar
If you dont write ya own raps your not a rapper simple and plain. i dont even know how sum of yall even think this is even slightly acceptable
He was addressing you implying that a rapper should just stop making music, and get out the way for younger rappers, when he turns 40...which is just dumb and I agree with him is one of the reasons rap music doesn't get the respect other genres does.
In regards to ghostwriting, I can never respect any rapper who has whole songs and verses written for them. No way. I don't care how great you may deliver it.
Atsym Sknyfs
Superstar
fixed ..
rapper's just recite rhymes no matter who wrote them ... MCs ... always write their own shyt
Atsym Sknyfs
Superstar
Puffy NEVER proclaimed to write his own stuff so he gets a pass... He also NEVER proclaimed to be a MC ... he always said he is an entertainer
Kanye does write most of his rhymes though, so is he a rapper most of the time?
nikkas can't even tel the difference between Kanye writing and Kanye not writing.
His most "assisted writing" project is 808s and Heartbreaks which is his least lyrical from an emcee standpoint and his "least written" are Graduation and LR (nothing at all) which are his most lyrical from an emcee standpoint, CD had Che writing 1 verse on Jesus Walks and MBDTF/Yeezus I don't know that's when he started with that 5-6 producers, flying 100 nikkas out to Hawaii shyt..
That's not what I was talking about.
If you can't write a verse anymore, whether you're 15 or 30 or 60, and that's the main thing you're required to do, then get the fukk out the game. It has nothing to do with age. It has to do with "are you as an artist actually doing artist work". Period.
a better analogy would be jazz music. i hate it when posters compare rap to cac rock.