If she's not submissive, don't date her. Simple

[Gaara]

This thread sums up why Black people have the lowest marriage rates. Everything's a gat damn power struggle between the sexes.

Black people have the lowest marriage rates because both black men and black women are f*cked up; it has nothing to do with wifely submission.

 

[Giselle]

What's there to explain? You assumed I like to be p*ssy whipped and disrespected based on nothing

Based on the fact that you called the type of woman that the guy described weak and a servant & I don't think she is (I explained this earlier if you read).
All you said was "I don't want a servant for a girl"

Then I asked this

Does what he described really sound like a servant to you? How?

How does a woman who is not a servant behave in your opinion?

Because I obviously do not think that the woman he described is weak or a servant.

I guess you don't know how to explain yourself very well, which is why you didn't answer & why your original comment wasn't detailed, which left room for assumption.

 

[The_Truth]

Black people have the lowest marriage rates because both black men and black women are f*cked up; it has nothing to do with wifely submission.

It's all related. And both partners should submit to each other. But black men and women are always trying to one-up each other.

 

[The_Truth]

We're just providing an opposing view it's kind of the point of public discourse such as this.

And if he wants to spend his life searching for his June Cleaver so be it. I on the other know that female submission comes with the price of male utility and provision and that's not something i'm willing to pay.

Yeah, but OP was explicitly speaking to the men who ARE looking for the type of relationship.

 

[Gaara]

It's all related. And both partners should submit to each other. But black men and women are always trying to one-up each other.

That's what i'm saying; Reciprocity and mutual accommodation is the way to go.

 

[Gaara]

Yeah, but OP was explicitly speaking to the men who ARE looking for the type of relationship.

He didn't state that. He assumed that any woman that didn't adhere to wifely submission (despite not being a wife) was a feminist. None of the women i've dated or fooled around expected me to "lead" them anywhere but the bedroom. Did they cook for me? Yes but they did so of there own volition not because i made it a stipulation and none of them were feminist matter of fact they were more hardcore anti feminist than i was.

 

[Prynce]

Based on the fact that you called the type of woman that the guy described weak and a servant & I don't think she is (I explained this earlier if you read).
All you said was "I don't want a servant for a girl"

Then I asked this

Because I obviously do not think that the woman he described is weak or a servant.

I guess you don't know how to explain yourself very well, which is why you didn't answer & why your original comment wasn't detailed, which left room for assumption.

Never called her weak

I just said I didn't want a servant which means I don't want a brainless women who needs my direction for everything

I like a woman who has a mind of her own

My comment had nothing to do with a woman choosing to be traditional and I would never call a woman weak for wanting to do that. You just assumed it.

I want a woman who holds her wifely duties down but I don't want a footstool as wife.



The ad hominem

Maybe i'm not taking you or this discussion serious
Did you ever consider that before you attacked my ability to articulate myself?

I found the assumptions you typed laughable, so I wasn't gonna dignify it with a serious response

 

[Dooby]

Because y'all nikkas want girls who will treat you like children and give you whatever you want when you want. Guy here said your girl should give you sex whenever you desire it. But do you. If a woman is contributing to the household financially then it's not my place to order her around. If you're making her a housewife then I guess you can make her your concubine or whatever yall want. Personally I want an equal who stimulates me not a dog who follows me

First of all, I'm no ******, so don't refer to me as one.

Secondly, people have such a hard time grasping a concept. They resort to fukking extremes...like you. A dog that follows you? That's your idea of a submissive wife? That's really what I'm arguing against here? It's going to come down to you doing you but you have to wonder why divorce rates are so high, men are lacking backbones and are not leading households. Equal leadership never works especially considering the vastly different makeup of the man and woman psyche.

 

[Giselle]

How is that equal for a man to work a 9-5, and then be done with the day, but the wife has to be a 24/7 maid, baby sitter, cook, and everything else. When does the work stop for her? Where is the equality in that? Seems totally unequal to me. Seems like one of those two people has a substantially lighter work load than the other. Both people should be working, and the responsibilities of the home, and children (if there are any) should be split equally between both of them. People do that everyday! And thats how its always been in the black community. Black women have NEVER had the luxury of staying at home. These dudes are just using MRA talking points to defend their misogyny.

Spoiler

I said they can still be equal to each other. They can still be equals. Just because she cooks & cleans, doesn't mean that she's weak and is going to let him walk all over her. She is not less than him because she stays at home while he makes all of the money for their family. If that arrangment works best for them, then that's great. (I'm not sure why I put that there because this thread isn't even about stay at home women, all he had in his post was that she cooked sometimes. I think I put it there because I was talking about @Thomas ' wife)

I think you took what I said the wrong way, but to answer it your way, the work stops for her whenever she wants it to. No one is forcing her to stay at home and she can put off almost any work/chore for the the next day. If the kids are school aged, some families save lots of money when they do that because daycare is expensive. The man still has to be a father to his kids, they still all have to spend time together as a family. If the parents want to go out alone, the can hire a babysitter or leave the kids with family.
Stay at home moms do not spend all day with the kids if the kids are school aged. Even if the kids are school aged, they can still get time alone and with their husband. They also do not spend everyday cooking and cleaning. Do you know any stay at home moms/wives? The stay at home wives and moms who have school aged kids get done with housework early and spend the rest of the day doing whatever else they want until it's time for their kids/husband to come home. They don't have to cook everyday, people eat left overs. & they don't have to clean everyday, just straighten things up and wash dishes. Most clean the whole house once per week, just like most people, even the ones who work.

 

[Koba St]

That type of woman is rare as fukk in the western world. You really think there are millions of submissive women like that out there? If they were marriage would've skyrocketed by now. The only way a woman will be submissive to you these days is if you're rich and powerful and even then that "submissiveness" will be nothing but fake. As soon as you marry her, have kids, and she gains. The upper hand you will start seeing her true side.

You can go to a third world country and get yourself a submissive woman but the chances are that she would change as soon as you get her ass back to America.
As a modern man you'd just have to accept these women don't exist. If you want to get married you'd have to get used to a woman who's financially independent, have the laws on her side and can pretty much leave whenever she wants. You either accept it or become bitter and jaded, which is what's happening to a lot of modern men these days.

 

[MarloStanTrill]

Why don't you check your logic? I was agreeing with him.

Womens hamster wheel logic.


I dont agree with op, but let me make his point.

Feminist gets corrected, doesnt take accountability.











Thots

 

[Giselle]

Never called her weak

I just said I didn't want a servant which means I don't want a brainless women who needs my direction for everything

I like a woman who has a mind of her own

My comment had nothing to do with a woman choosing to be traditional and I would never call a woman weak for wanting to do that. You just assumed it.

I want a woman who holds her wifely duties down but I don't want a footstool as wife.



The ad hominem

Maybe i'm not taking you or this discussion serious
Did you ever consider that before you attacked my ability to articulate myself?

I found the assumptions you typed laughable, so I wasn't gonna dignify it with a serious response

Spoiler

You said that you didn't want a servant & my point was, that a weak servant is not the type of woman that the op described. He didn't say or hint that the woman was "brainless" or "needs his direction for everything", he did not describe her as a "foot stool" (your definition of a servant).

He said they both give advice to each other, talk to eachother and listen to eachother without arguing. He also said that she was open sexually, nurturing and liked to cook (I'm pretty sure that he didn't force her to cook).

-Cooked and cleaned to perfection
-Always cooked a hot meal for me when I came back from work
-Held my opinions with weight, and listened to my advice
-Never denied me sex cause she wanted to "teach me a lesson" or "was mad at me"
-Did every type of sexual thing under the sun, freak in the sheets
-Never got an attitude with me
-Convos always flowed smoothly. Would give great advice, without a reprimanding/condescending tone

 

[Giselle]

Submissive and weak/servant/brainless/pushover is not the same thing you guys. Idk why some of you think that it's the same thing.

 

[Free White & 21]

I want a submissive wife than can be extremely dominant when I want her to be.

You wanna get pegged from time to time huh breh?

 

[GoldTeef]

You wanna get pegged from time to time huh breh?

nah nikka